Hillary BAD; Obama WORSE - The TRUTH !!

[scottfree]

Let's get this straight about Barak Obama, once and for all.

His father was a Kenyan, Moslem and black; we've all seen the pictures of his "family."
His mother was a Kansan, an atheist and white.
Where are the pictures of his white mother and his white grandparents who raised him?
His "father" deserted his mother and him when he was very young and returned to Kenya.
His "mother" married an Indonesian Moslem and took him to Jakarta where he was schooled in a Moslem school.
His mother returned to Hawaii and he was raised by his white Kansan grandparents.
He later went to the best high dollar schools. How?
Obama now lives in a $1.4 million dollar house he acquired through a deal with a wealthy fund-raiser. How?
He "worked" as a civil rights activist in Chicago -- has never held a productive job. (The presidency is not a civil rights post) Nor is it subject to Affirmative Action.
He entered politics at the state level and then the national level where he has minimal experience.
While he is "proud" of his "African heritage" it seems that his only African connection was that his black father got a white girl pregnant and then deserted her. Does sperm carry a cultural gene?
He attends an afrocentric church that hates white people and blames America for everything.
He claims that he could not confront his pastor but wants us to believe he can confront North Korea and Iran.
While he claims to be a "uniter," the hope he speaks of is that he hopes no one connects the dots when he talks about "hope" and unity.
He would also like to confiscate all firearms and raise your taxes by about $10,000 per year (Average family. Research it ! )


If you think that the above disqualifies Obammy, you have only two choises; vote or don't vote.

If you don't vote, he will win the election.
If you vote for Ron Paul or Ralph Nader you will waste your vote.
(Neither has a chance in hell ! and ... Obammy wins.)

There is ONE other option. Think about it.

Please VOTE !

[Syz]

So let's see--in other words, he's a liberal like Hillary and Swill and the rest of the Socialist gang who wants total government control over their lives. No thanks skippy, you go on ahead without me.

[nohil-billy]

Yes!!! Finally!!! Obama is not talking about change as in the tax code. He's talking change according to the Nation of Islam. Reverend Wright"s change. Wake up for Christ sake. He's just another liberal spreading his own brand of liberalism as he sees it. Reverend Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Bill Ayers, don't you get it???

scottfree is hitting this nail right on the head. In Minnesota, there is a Muslim public school. Nobody is doing anything about it. We are afraid of not being politically correct and therefore letting them get away with things that Judeo Christians are not allowed to do. Do you believe that they haven't infiltrated our political system with the likes of Barrack Obama? Think people!!! Don't vote for Hillary, but for Christ sake, don't vote for Obama.


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[nohil-billy]

Barak Obama is trying to soften the blow he delivered to the small town people of Pennsylvania and the rest of these United States by basically reiterating what he said in the first place. Not very smart but that's because Obama is an elitist mope who is totally involved in his vision of the new America he will create which will contrast sharply with traditional small town values.

Read what Obama said and break it down further than the media is. Obama has already declared conservatism and traditional family values dead. Conservatives are no longer the opposing ideology but simply bitter losers clinging to whats left of the America we knew growing up. Christianity, The Constitution, majority rules, have all been declred passe with his remarks. His brand of socialism, whatever that may be, is already a foregone conclusion and we better get used to it.

Choose your imam, buy your burkas, we have met the enemy and we are his. According to him!!!


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[nohil-billy]

“[i]t’s not surprising, then, that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

The above quote is from Obama's statement about small town Americans. Is it only me, or does this remark just as accurately describe the racist diatribes of his pastor, Jeremiah Wright?

[Herb Schaffler]

"His father was a Kenyan, Moslem and black; we've all seen the pictures of his "family.""

What's so wrong about that?

"His mother was a Kansan, an atheist and white."

I'm also an atheist.

"Where are the pictures of his white mother and his white grandparents who raised him?"

I've seen a picture of his white grandmother.

"His "father" deserted his mother and him when he was very young and returned to
Kenya."

Does that disqualify Obama?

"His "mother" married an Indonesian Moslem and took him to Jakarta where he was schooled in a Moslem school."

Obama is a Christian, but even if Obama were a Muslim or still is one, so what? Even if Obama is an atheist, so what? Our Constitution states that there is to be no religious test for public office.

"He later went to the best high dollar schools. How?"

Oh yes, there must be something shady here!

"Obama now lives in a $1.4 million dollar house he acquired through a deal with a wealthy fund-raiser. How?"

There could be something shady about that, but no worse than all the sweetheart deals that the Clintons have received.

"He "worked" as a civil rights activist in Chicago"

What's wrong with that?

"He entered politics at the state level and then the national level where he has minimal experience."

True, he has minimal experience, but he can surround himself with experienced advisors so I don't worry so much about that.

"While he is "proud" of his "African heritage" it seems that his only African connection was that his black father got a white girl pregnant and then deserted her. Does sperm carry a cultural gene?"

The way Obama was conceived has nothing to do with him as a person.

"He attends an afrocentric church that hates white people and blames America for everything."

Many blacks have chips on their shoulders because of the way whites have treated them in the past, but regardless of whether his paster and some of the people in his church and even his wife have this chip on their shoulder, is there proof that Obama has such a chip on his shoulder? This is nothing but guilt by association.

"While he claims to be a "uniter," the hope he speaks of is that he hopes no one connects the dots when he talks about "hope" and unity."

Even J. C. Watts believes Obama will be a uniter. He said on Hannity's radio program that Obama is not a scarry liberal and will be more likely to work with Republicans than would Hillary.

"He would also like to confiscate all firearms and raise your taxes by about $10,000 per year (Average family. Research it ! )"

Now you're talking, scottfree. Most everything you said in your post is irrelevant to me. Issues about taxes, firearms (although I doubt very seriously that he would confiscate all of them), and socialized medicine are the issues that Republicans need to be focusing on and drop all that other silly stuff.

"If you vote for Ron Paul or Ralph Nader you will waste your vote."

First of all, Ron Paul won't be running in the general election, but there will be a Libertarian candidate. Second, some people feel they would be wasting their vote if they voted for Obama or McWar. I don't like Obama's liberalism and I don't like the fact that McCain would continue Bush's bankrupt foreign policy. With Obama and McCain, it's a choice between two different kinds of evils as far as I'm concerned, so if the election isn't close in Texas, why not send a message that I'm opposed to the domestic policy of the Democrats and the foreign policy of the Republicans, so I'll vote Libertarian as I usually do. But if the race is close in Texas, I'll vote for Obama because I consider him, IMO, to be the lesser of evils.

[Herb Schaffler]

Originally Posted by nohil-billy

“[i]t’s not surprising, then, that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

The above quote is from Obama's statement about small town Americans. Is it only me, or does this remark just as accurately describe the racist diatribes of his pastor, Jeremiah Wright?

It's just you, nohillbilly. I see it more as a remark against small town intolerance. I know where he's coming from. I grew up in little redneck communities in Oklahoma.

[Herb Schaffler]

"Choose your imam, buy your burkas, we have met the enemy and we are his. According to him!!!"

Sounds like we have a new McCarthyism going on here. Now instead of ruining people by calling them Communists, we're trying to ruin them by accusing them of being Muslims.

[Herb Schaffler]

Here's another viewpoint on the recent flap about Obama's comments. This comes from a blogger at the Obama blogspot:

OBAMA’S WORDS THAT HAVE BEEN SO ATTACKED ARE SUBJECT TO MIS-INTERPRETATION --- BUT THEY WERE NOT SAID WITH CONDESCENSION. ------------- BITTER --- What is wrong with saying many people whose livelihoods have been largely destroyed are bitter. To deny this is proof of being out of touch or dishonest. ------------- CLINGING TO RELIGION --- There’s nothing wrong with saying people cling to religion in hard times. --- It does not imply they are not religious in good times --- but rather that, in hard times, religion is often particularly important --- Who could deny this. ------------- CLINGING TO GUNS --- There is nothing wrong with saying people particularly appreciate the few meaningful traditions and rights they have --- such as hunting and self-defense --- in extremely hard times when so much else has been taken from their lives. ------------- CLINGING TO ANTIPATHY TOWARD PEOPLE WHO AREN’T LIKE THEM --- Obama is not saying all, or even a majority, of the people who’ve been economically devastated are racist ---but rather acknowledging the truth that when people are persecuted, such as by economic ruin, their resentments against others tend to increase. ------------- CLINGING TO ANTI-IMMIGRANT SENTIMENTS --- Who would contend that many people who have lost their jobs to other countries and illegal immigrants don’t harbor resentments, and who would contend that none have justification to do so. ------------- CLINGING TO ANTI-TRADE SENTIMENTS --- What is wrong with saying people who have lost their jobs to overseas because of free trade have resentments against such policies --- Obama and Hillary both attack such policies. ------------- OBAMA DOES NOT LOOK DOWN ON MOST OF THE “CLINGING” HE DESCRIBED--- BECAUSE HE SUPPORTS MANY OF THE SAME THINGS ------------- Instead he was saying the economically devastated have heard so many false political promises --- and, thus, it is hard for them to believe any politician --- including himself --- can economically raise them up --- Instead they focus their votes on the few issues where they think they make a difference --- such as on moral issues --- gun rights --- rolling back extremes of affirmative action --- and immigration reform. ------------- WERE OBAMA’S WORDS CONDESCENDING --- NO ------------- INSTEAD THEY SHOW AN UNDERSTANDING FOR THE FEELINGS OF THE ECONOMICALLY DEVASTATED --- AND A RESPECT FOR THEIR VIEWPOINTS --- THAT NEITHER HILLARY NOR JOHN McCAIN HAVE SHOWN.

[Syz]

I am living in one of the small redneck communities Herb and Obama mentioned. Is Obama being condescending -- NO--in these towns when a government becomes excessively oppressive and deceitful-men need an enemy and determine to defend their Constitution in the example of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols who came from the farm south of where I live and Michigan was the hub of militia that brought them here in the first place and it still maintains this ilk of manhood as do most small towns.

McVeigh was not Muslim. Pennsylvania is not exclusive to government control, yet my fellow citizens are determined to increase this government control to its fruition by voting for those who have openly stated this is their intent, Obama and Clinton are no different in their outspoken plan for government control than is the Islamic bent to bring their religion to our doorstep-- We have been openly told and we have ignored the fact that the enemy is US for allowing these carpet baggers to increase their control through one lie after another while they force us to argue among ourselves and keep the youth of this nation paying for the elderly until they have managed to break their backs into servitude voters.

Now, all that is left for the con artists is to add the illegal immigrants to their list of servitude voters.