Liar "Communist" Criminal Hillary Clinton!

[nohil-billy]

Will definately make it my next purchase when I go to the book store. Thanks for the tip.

I wonder if it covers America's dependency on the insurance industry? I was listening to a guest on a radio talk show about how we wouldn't expect our auto insurer to pay for new wiper blades or an oil change but we expect our health insurer to pay for the simplest tests, check-ups, or innoculations. I go see a doctor twice a year and pay out of pocket. I've chosen not to carry health insurance through work at least for another year and I save a bundle.

I feel it would be an infringement on my pocketbook to force me to pay for insurance and foresake my own health maintenance plan which is working just fine for me.

[Syz]

When I posted my review of the Conservative Black Website regarding the liberal racist mentality through the years, two nights later C-Span had a book review by Bruce Bartlett who wrote "Wrong on Race". It becomes more understanding why the racist hits on Obama have been so strong from the Hillary camp.

Their own party doesn't defend the fact Obama was seldom at the church on Sunday during the 15 years and obviously none of them ever really heard Michelle Obama speak, by ignoring her outstanding long lectures on C-Span. So, what's the surprise or concern? We have the Socialists calling the Socialists black. Who cares?

My experience has shown most religious leaders travel the world over and converse with everyone from despots to kings so Wright's interests would stem from these adventures and is hardly worth the discussion. His Hell, Fire and Brimstone is no more than Elmer Gantry in his best moments and this is being used by the inauthentic journalists to try and propagandize Obama off the ticket.

The Pope praised Hitler, yet saved hundreds of Jews from the death camps.

Can you see Hillary putting her life on the line for such a cause beyond herself? She would simply steal the property from the Jews as she did our property from the White House as they left.

The great humor of Dr. Savage tells the tale of Hillary: "She'll have the Statue of Liberty removed to avoid competition. AND, O'Really would interview Hitler and promise to keep out the oven scenes if he thought it would get him an audience." Dennis Miller is also great on the Socialist team: "Bill and Hillary are nothing more than drifters--Bonnie and Clyde level. She came out of the womb guilting the doctor."

[Herb Schaffler]

You're exactly right, nohil-billy. It should be a matter of choice. People who are healthy enough shouldn't have to pay into a system they don't need or want.

You're right about our big insurance companies, Medicare, and Medicaid paying for routine care. This is what has driven their costs up so high. We would be better off with catastophic policies that only pay for high cost services. Imagine how high our car insurance would be if it paid for every little minor expense. Regina Hertzinger addresses this issue in her books.

[Herb Schaffler]

"Bill and Hillary are nothing more than drifters--Bonnie and Clyde level."

I've always called Hillary and Bill the Bonnie and Clyde of American politics.

[Syz]

Question for No-hill---Previously I stated any National Health Care program is unconstitutional. Knowing you have a sound religious background, yet an open mind, I'd like your opinion on how you think she will get away with making those of faith and against abortion pay for the National Program with your tax dollars that will support it.

[Syz]

Herb: Now that I think of it. Bonnie and Clyde were honest in their acts of horror. Wow, Bonnie and Clyde win the honest personality contest. YUMP-N-YIMMINY

[nohil-billy]

An excellent question for which I have no answer.

By the way, we've had this discussion before and you know I'm not a religious person. I'm an agnostic and have very little use for organized religion. My beliefs on abortion are purely moral, not religious. At one time I believed in abortion but as time has gone by and birth control has gotten more efficient and reliable, I believe it's time for abortion to go the way of the typewriter and record player. I have no qualms about abortion in cases of rape, incest, or physically or mentally deficient children who will never be contributors to society but only burdens on the social services system. I am also in favor of the morning after pill.

[Syz]

My apologies no hil. Obviously I don't recall our discussion. I do recall my remark about agnostics, but I'm pro-individual choice which doesn't allow crossing the line of individual rights. This is why I'm wondering why those of faith would tolerate National Health Care.

My doctor bought me some living time by setting up an experimental operation for me by a medical company associated with Aarp to the tune of $50,000.00. We all know you and others are going without health care for these experimentations and the tremendous health care give-a-ways to thousands of illegal immigrants and drug dealers which all those running for office refuse to do anything about. All totally unnecessary. Social Security reform and individual health care plans would allow all of us to pay our own way.

It would allow us to shop for insurance making costs competitive and keeping medical experimentation alive. However, Hillary's health care would stop scientific development across the board and citizen's health care would be totally up to the decision of Hillary's gate keepers who will cut the rights of health care to the age limit of 60. Her Program would give illegals and dealers ligitimate rights to our taxes.

Hillary is right, YES, we do have a right to have affordable health insurance. Our right is to have our own insurance not covered by a monopoly of boards deciding how much of our tax dollars should go for illegals, elderly, young, old, alcoholics, drug addicts, mentally unbalanced, abortion clinics, doctors, etc. and what diseases this monopoly will decide you can take from the pot of gold we hand them to squander.

The same holds true for individual Social Security reform, using the same format as today. Calculated on a 40 year working period, we would all retire on a savings minimum of $50,000.00 annually. I did all this math 30 years ago so I leave others to inform themselves. It's the old saying figures don't lie, liars figure and we certainly know Hillary has the lying part down and it's the only experience she does have.

[nohil-billy]

I heard that 65% of ones lifetime health care costs, or about $400,000, is used within the last six months of ones life. I believe that's why many countries with socialized medicine are cutting services to the elderly. It makes me laugh that the party that wants to limit health care to the elderly is the same one that accused Republicans of wanting to throw grandma out on the street during Bill Clinton's reelection campaign.

By not accepting health insurance I discovered a whole different health care system than the one I was familiar with. Prices tend to be lower if they discover you're uninsured and you wouldn't believe how my NP bends over backwards to prescribe the cheapest medications. Herb was right to suggest catastrophic policies for high cost services. Get a high deductible and then shop around for the best prices for routine procedures and pay out of pocket.

One more thing. I watched Mike Huckabee give an interview where he said that we don't have a health care crises in this country, we have a health crises. If people took more responsibility for their own health they wouldn't be looking for someone else to take responsibility for their health care.

"Nothing that comes through a window is food."
Mike Huckabee

[Herb Schaffler]

"Get a high deductible and then shop around for the best prices for routine procedures and pay out of pocket."

This competition would bring prices down and make health care more affordable. Medical advertising would also help bring down prices by increasing competition.