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Old 04.22.2008
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Thanks Syz for all the above information. Now it's Judy's turn to cry. The above information shows how Hillary's plan is nothing but socialism with putting health care completely under the control of the government. But something tells me Judy doesn't care.
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I'm frustrated by the ignorance of the elderly women. I truly think they see this as a soap opera and don't connect it with reality because they are so removed from it when they speak. Hillary approaches it the same way. Every time she's on stage, it's another act in her play. Didn't watch last night, but I assume she won because the media has to play act as well to keep their jobs. It's nothing more than that to these people at the expense of our Freedom. It's the old saying "if they don't want to come in out of the rain, there's nothing you can do to stop 'em.
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Hillary and the MSM are making a big deal out of her victory, but remember, she was ahead in Pennsylvania by 20 points just a few weeks ago. Obama narrowed her win to just 8&1/2 points. Super delegates are continuing to come out for Obama because they know it's over for Hillary in spite of her victory last night. The governor of Oklahoma just came out for Obama. Hillary's lead in superdelegates is narrowing and will vanish before long. Obama continues to increase his lead nationally in the opinion polls. The latest poll I saw shows him at 11 points ahead of Hillary nationally. Hillary's days are numbered.

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Herb,

I believe I understand your reasoning, but the lunacy of the democratic voters never ceases to amaze me. If the polls are to be believed, HRC did quite well among the voters of PA....from various walks of life...what I don't understand is why women voters can support her knowing she is a liar a cheat and a fraud.....

Obama better start campaigning with a little substance or he may find himself in a trick by June.

Never underestimate the sleaziness of the Klintons!

Patrick
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Maybe a lot of the voters are starting to see the arrogance and elitism that is Barak Obama. Closing it to 8 1/2 points isn't that great an achievement when you outspend your opponent 3 to 1.
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Just Who Voted for Hillary in Pennsylvania

Those of you who think that Hillary's health care plan is "socialism" must keep up to date by listening to those knowledgeable people on talk radio. Obama's plan is almost the same as Hillary's. Why aren't you criticizing his plan? As for the comment about elderly women and soap operas, that's probably the most sexist statement I have heard for quite a while. Why don't you check out who voted for Hillary in Pennsylvania? White men making under $50,000 a year (you know, the kind who drink beer, not wine), older MEN and women, Catholics and other people who attend church, etc. Your comments that elderly women are just out of touch with reality accounts for all elderly women but what about the other people who voted for her? If you look at who voted for her, it is the working-class people in this country (you know, the people who actually make this country work). It's the same people who elected Ronald Reagan. If you actually watched the debate and felt that Obama is the stronger candidate, you are the ones who are out of touch with reality. Maybe you are too busy watching soap operas.
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"Obama's plan is almost the same as Hillary's. Why aren't you criticizing his plan? "

We have. The only thing better about Obama's plan is that it isn't coerced like Hillary's.

Another demographic that you didn't mention, Judy, is that the more highly educated voted in higher numbers for Obama than for Hillary. That should tell you something. Those with brains, think.

"If you actually watched the debate and felt that Obama is the stronger candidate, you are the ones who are out of touch with reality."

Hillary would lose a debate also if it were three against her like it was with Obama. Hillary didn't do too well in that debate where Tim Russet was asking her tough questions.

Judy in disguise with rose colored glasses.
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The issue is not Obama or Hillary, they are one and the same. The issue is those running on a Socialist Anti-American platform who refuse to admit it vs our Founding Father's Constitutional Government.
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They're fighting at the debates, they're fighting in the news media, and they're fighting on the "No Hillary For President " website. Operation Chaos lives!!!

Herb, they're two of a kind. judydreams is absolutely correct. (I can't believe I said that) You're trying to lop one of the heads off of a two-headed monster while hoping for some reason that the other survives.

As for you judydreams, one more snide remark about beer drinking white men and I'm confiscating your bon-bons and canceling your subscription to the Soap Channel.

Hillary and Obama are beginning to resemble Rocky Balbo and Apolla Creed at the end of Rocky II. Both are flailing away and while one of them will get off the floor in the end, he or she will not look pretty.
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Bon Bons and Soaps

Don't bother cancelling my subscription to soaps (I have never watched them) and you don't need to confiscate my bon bons (I don't eat them). My comment on "white beer drinking men" wasn't snide (just how did you come up with that assessment?), I grew up with white beer drinking men and the working-class people of this country. I like them! Until I retired, I was one of the working class people of this country. Herb, just when did working class people lose their brains? Just because I became college educated along the way doesn't mean I ever forgot my roots, and I did bring my working-class brain right along with me. If you check out the results from Pennsylvania, Hillary is actually gaining among the college-educated group. College-educated people can be just as stupid as anyone else. My son who is working on his doctorate in Philadelphia is an Obama supporter. Why, because he doesn't like Hillary's position on "flag-burning." Now, that's a reason to vote against someone with an economy in shambles. Just a function of his age and inexperience.

Obama's health plan is "coerced." People who have children are required "coerced" to purchase health insurance under his plan. Herb, there should be more people like Hillary who are "anti-american." She has spent almost her entire life in the public-sector fighting for what she believes. Speaking of Obama, he doesn't possess one important qualification to be President. He lacks courage. You can't be a great leader if you don't have it. Check out his history, his votes or lack of them when in Illinois, his inability to "stand up" to Reverend Wright, HIS LACK OF HONESTY in even describing his relationship with Wright, his non-vote against the war, and on and on. Do you honestly expect Obama to be able to stand up to Iran or Syria, when he can't stand up to his pastor for 20 years? Another Jimmy Carter in the making? And this idea of "fighting" among the Democrats is just silly. You people must not have watched prior elections--Kennedy and Johnson, Dukakis and Bush, etc.? Just one more example of your gender bias against Hillary, and the tragedy is you don't even know it. I don't remember hearing this outrage among Democrats when only men were fighting for the nomination. It's only Hillary who is "destroying" the party.

As for Hillary, she has done just fine in all of the debates. Just look at what the American people think. The last debate wasn't just "pro Obama" as most of the other ones have been. Enough for now, I have to go use my college-educated, working-class brain.
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