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04.08.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plattsburg, Mo.
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| | | Isn't it interesting that because we don't support Hillary we're woman haters. judydreams, you live in a fantasy land and you talk out of both sides of your face. | | Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Hillary For President Forum For Free. Sponsored Links: | | 
04.09.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rockville md Age: 63
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| | | Guess We Know Different People Hello Everyone,
I've finally figured out why we see Hillary so differently. You all (men and women) are perfect. You don't make mistakes, you have never cheated on a spouse, you never tell lies, and you can't tolerate anyone who does. Now I understand. We just live in different worlds. I guess people are different in Maryland. But wait a minute nohil-billy, I lived in Missouri many years ago and I don't remember people being quite that perfect. Hillary is a politician. Why would you expect more from her than from the other candidates? Are those of you who are so upset with Hillary's lies as upset with Obama's or McCain's? Yes, she has been dishonest in explaining some of her experiences but so have the other candidates. You have to make a judgment about the person, not just choose a few instances and make that her entire life. It MIGHT have something to do with having a woman in charge.
As for the "other side" of Bill's presidency, what he did with Monica was awful. But I do find it hard to believe that you don't know other people (men and women) who have cheated on their spouses. Come on admit it, you may know one person. And, the husband and/or wife may even have decided to stay in the marriage and you understood. Why should it be so hard to imagine Hillary staying in a marriage for the same reasons that many other people do who find themselves in similar situations? People who hate Hillary really have a hard time seeing her as a human being. Why do you think she (or Bill for that matter) should be any different than the rest of us.
Herb, I guess you are against Social Security and Medicare also. Am I right? The health care plan that will be passed if a Democrat is elected will be very different from any of the proposals. Your example of a healthy person not wanting to purchase heath care is the same reason I want that person to be required to purchase it. Why should I have to pay higher premiums (and you if you have health insurance) if that person should get sick or have an accident. Oh, I forgot, your friends must not get sick.
I could go on, but my last comment has to do with Bill Clinton. Why shouldn't he get the credit for a balanced budget? In my world, if you are the boss and people who support your proposals or you as the President sign something into law, then the person in charge gets at least some of the credit. That seems to be impossible for any of you to do because you are too busy thinking up that one "perfect" word to define Hillary. | 
04.09.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Guru | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 61
Posts: 1,208
| | | "I don't remember people being quite that perfect. Hillary is a politician. Why would you expect more from her than from the other candidates? "
Hillary makes all other politicians look honest in comparison.
"Are those of you who are so upset with Hillary's lies as upset with Obama's or McCain's?"
I don't think Obama or McCain have said nearly as many lies as Hillary has and certainly not as fantastic lies as Hillary has. Hillary's lies approach the point of pathological.
"You have to make a judgment about the person, not just choose a few instances and make that her entire life."
Lying and dishonesty pretty much has been her whole life.
"It MIGHT have something to do with having a woman in charge."
It has nothing to do with that!
"As for the "other side" of Bill's presidency, what he did with Monica was awful. But I do find it hard to believe that you don't know other people (men and women) who have cheated on their spouses. Come on admit it, you may know one person. And, the husband and/or wife may even have decided to stay in the marriage and you understood. Why should it be so hard to imagine Hillary staying in a marriage for the same reasons that many other people do who find themselves in similar situations? People who hate Hillary really have a hard time seeing her as a human being. Why do you think she (or Bill for that matter) should be any different than the rest of us."
I don't have a problem with Bill having extramarital affairs or with Hillary staying with him. I do have a problem with how she tried to destroy women in her attempts to cover up Bill's promiscuity.
"Herb, I guess you are against Social Security and Medicare also. Am I right? "
Yes.
"my last comment has to do with Bill Clinton. Why shouldn't he get the credit for a balanced budget? In my world, if you are the boss and people who support your proposals or you as the President sign something into law, then the person in charge gets at least some of the credit."
Picture this! What if there were no great high tech economy while Clinton was president? What if he didn't have a Congress working with him that wasn't as fiscally responsible as the Republican dominated Congress and he wasted money to his heart's content as I'm sure would have been the case if he had been able to? Would we then have had the balanced budget that we had then?
Again, talk some more to your libertarian son, maybe he can shed some light on you. | 
04.10.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Age: 52
Posts: 15
| | | Liar "communist" Criminal Hillary Clinton STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES - AMERICA WAKE UP! To all Hillary Clinton supporters who think that all politicians are law breakers and have no skeletons in their closet, are all not running for PRESIDENT! IF the average American had destroyed evidence in a criminal case, or a conspirator to
murder, you would not be running for PRESIDENT, you would be in PRISON!
Again, you Americans who pay for health care what is your deductible a year? By the time you reach your deductible your year is gone and you pay for another year, in the mean time you pay your doctor bills! STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!
HILLARY'S "NEW PLAN" all AMERICANS will be doing this! THANKS but NO THANKS!
The same criminals who are stealing your money in the guise of HEALTH CARE INSURANCE
are supporting her CAMPAIGN!
ONE LAST POINT! You pay or been paying HEALTH CARE INSURANCE, wait till your claim is denied and still see if your insurance plan is worth all the money you paid?
THE "90's" - Bill Clinton balanced the budget - WHAT A JOKE! (HE SOLD THE NATIONAL DEBT TO THE CHINESE - RESEARCH IT)
THE CLINTONS are ANTI-AMERICANS, and also support amnesty for Illegal ALIENS!
AGAIN - STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES! THE CURE - NO HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! I Don't support McCain either, I do not want another wall in Washington with 50'000 + names on it, with another war we will not win! PROOF- READ THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE! | 
04.10.2008
|  | Anti-Hillary Forum - Owner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Big Sandy, TN Age: 35
Posts: 1,341
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AGAIN - STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES! THE CURE - NO HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT! | AMEN and a BIG hallelujah!
__________________ WiseOne says "No Hillary For President" For A Better Tomorrow. ( Hillary Clinton's Indian Name: "Chief Empty Cloud" ) Political Forum ...think you know politics? "We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." — Hillary Rodham Clinton __________________________________________ | 
04.10.2008
|  | Anti-Hillary Forum - Owner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Big Sandy, TN Age: 35
Posts: 1,341
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I've finally figured out why we see Hillary so differently. You all (men and women) are perfect. You don't make mistakes, you have never cheated on a spouse, you never tell lies, and you can't tolerate anyone who does. Now I understand. We just live in different worlds.
| BS, we ALL make mistakes...but we aren't running for President. No one would vote for me for President...and, it's not because I am a man. Hillary CONTINUES to make bald-faced lies right now, to the world, and that only exacerbates, and brings to light, her past mistakes. Heck, she's doing it to herself! She gives us the ammo, we simply use it to show who this beast truly is. Hey, give me a $100 bill and I'm not going to just look at it...I am going to use it! There is NO excuse for Hillary "Rotten" Clinton, period.
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04.10.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ottawa
Posts: 20
| | | judy--sounds like you are the one who has issues. I wonder why you are on this forum? Do you in your in your heart know that what we are saying about 'hank" is true. You may argue your support for 'hank" all you want but you will never change my mind about her. I will not ever vote for the "hank and bill" charade. Period
By the same token we will never open your eyes to the truth about "hank". Support her all you want but don't try to convince us that it is our problem. I see through her act, she will never tell the truth, and if she did how would we ever know?
33sharks--->out | 
04.10.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plattsburg, Mo.
Posts: 1,061
| | | It's pointless talking to her WiseOne. She is totally committed to Hillary and probably should be committed herself. Perhaps if she had daughters who were groped, fondled or raped by Slick Willie while Hillary was in the background smearing their reputations to keep them quiet, she would see things differently.
You go ahead and vote for Hillary you moron. You lie and distort the truth like she does so why not go down in flames with her. | 
04.10.2008
|  | Anti-Hillary Forum - Owner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Big Sandy, TN Age: 35
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Perhaps if she had daughters who were groped, fondled or raped by Slick Willie while Hillary was in the background smearing their reputations to keep them quiet, she would see things differently.
| Amen, not much more that I can add to that! It is ALWAYS different when it happens to YOU...not someone on the news. Real human beings were and ARE destroyed by those two!
__________________ WiseOne says "No Hillary For President" For A Better Tomorrow. ( Hillary Clinton's Indian Name: "Chief Empty Cloud" ) Political Forum ...think you know politics? "We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." — Hillary Rodham Clinton __________________________________________ | 
04.21.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 228
| | | Judy: I'm curious about two things you have mentioned. What is the appeal to you for a totally Government controlled liberal platform in place of our Individual Rights Constitution? (you can research The U.S. Socialist Party. it is the same platform as the liberals). And what brought you to the conclusion that women are no longer second-class citizens?
I was an original member of N.O.W. and my Grandmother was a suffragette. I've been a voice for privatized social security refusing to be selfish enough to allow the young to support the elderly knowing this privatization would resolve that propagandized need.
I am also a promoter of much cheaper and affordable Individual Health Care plans rather than the un-constitutional Government control Hillary presents.
I will present a few statements right out of Hillary's original Universal Plan:
You will automatically be enrolled in a government-run "health alliance" "It is the obligation of every eligible individual to enroll in a health plan. Anyone who does not meet the established deadline for enrollment automatically is enrolled in a health plan when he or she seeks medical care. Regional alliances assign patients who do not seek enrollment to a health plan/ they automatically assign any newborn infant who is not enrolled through his or her parents to a plan". Once you are enrolled "health-providing institutions...would send all patients through medical "gatekeepers" who would decide what care people really need "--(Gatekeepers scares the L out of me Judy and unless you've been living on a puff pillow, it should also scare you)
Present and future doctors will be under direct control of a new National Health Board. Those who don't obey orders can be fined, have their assets forfeited, and be imprisoned. "current federal authority is amended to allow forfeitures of proceeds derived from health care fraud" and "the law provides for prejudgment interest or penalties and assessments imposed by an administrative "law judge", any doctor who doesn't tell the government everything it wants to know about your medical history, buys services from a company the government hasn't approved, or doesn't open his offices to governmental inspection on demand is history.
Judy my friend, these new "crimes" are broad enough for the government to destroy any doctor who fails to meekly obey the orders of the government. Clinton's plan will do nothing to control most of these rising health-care costs. And it will inevitably regulate and regiment many physicians and hospitals out of existence. This means that the only way Clinton can control costs is by rationing. Rationing is a favorite Socialist pastime.
Clinton's health-care plan calls for a direct government takeover of one seventh of our economy--national ID cards--computer dossiers on every person in America--governmental power to track your every movement---registration of your children with the state from birth---placing all doctors, hospitals, medical schools and pharmaceutical manufacturers under state control---taxes, fines and forfeitures imposed by administrative decree--treatment for drug abuse and mental problems at the whim of bureaucrats--mandatory drugging of citizens from birth----and giving governmental bureaucrats the life-and-death power to decide what medicines and treatment you will be allowed to have--
Allow me one more point regarding my fight for Judicial Reform. My hope is that few of us have to go through these corrupt halls of injustice to discover this group isn't qualifed to handle the complexities of a parking ticket.
An Independent for the Return of a Constitutional United States of America. | |
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