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04.07.2008
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04.07.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ottawa
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| | | judydreams-why are you such a manhater? I believe that this is something you should be looking inside yourself about. You are completely blinded by the "act" that hillary puts on for everyone. Only the few who can see through her curtain of lies and deceit have the foresight to see that see that she will be the downfall of this country if elected. In this case gender has nothing to with my decision not to vote for her. She like her husband is a lying rat. let me ask you a question. If you had a husband like bill how long would you stay married to him? Or more importantly WHY would you stay married to him? If your hillary the answer is simple--power.
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04.07.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ottawa
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| | | judydreams-why such a manhater? Maybe this is something you should examine within yourself. You are completely blinded by the "charade" that hillary puts out for the American people. Only people who have the foresight through her lies and deceit know that if she is elected she will be the downfall of our country. Gender aside, I will never vote for hillary because of her character and liberal political slant. Let me ask you a question. If you were married to a person like bill clinton how long would you stay married to him? Or better yet WHY would you stay married to him. If you hillary the answer is simple---power and lots of it. He is a lying rat and so is she. 33sharks-->out | 
04.08.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rockville md Age: 66
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| | | Wrong Again! Isn't it interesting that because I support Hillary, I am a "manhater." Now that's fantasyland. Supporting Hillary has nothing to do with hating men. I actually have two sons, one is a libertarian and one is an Obama supporter. Mothers just can't win sometimes! As for health care, Hillary's plan is not "socialized" medicine. Apparently you do not know any of the millions of people who work everyday and simply cannot afford health insurance. You are telling me that we as a nation cannot come up with a solution to our health care crisis that provides health care to all of our citizens at a reasonable cost because I think we can. If you currently have health insurance, like I do, you will not be affected and will be able to stay in the plan that you have. Hillary is not actually that "liberal." She is probably the most conservative of all of the candidates with some exceptions on social issues. I think Hillary would bring some fiscal responsibility back to our government. In other words, the government shouldn't spend money that it doesn't have. If you remember, under Bill Clinton's administration, we actually had a balanced budget. Just compare that to the Bush administration who seems to think the solution is just printing more money and spending it. As for Condi, you have to be kidding me. She is probably the worst Secretary of State we have ever had. More later! | 
04.08.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rockville md Age: 66
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| | | Radio Talk Shows Oh, radio talk shows are really a good place to get your news. No wonder you have tunnel vision. I expect better from people who live in Missouri. | 
04.08.2008
|  | Anti-Hillary Forum - Owner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Big Sandy, TN Age: 37
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Originally Posted by judydreams Don't even try! Your argument that you would vote for a woman, BUT NOT THIS WOMAN is just so weak and pathetic. I am not voting for Hillary just because she is a woman. But, it is so interesting that when we do have a qualified woman for President, men say I couldn't vote for THIS woman and follow it up with nothing but disgusting labels which have nothing to do with her candidacy. And the labels that you assign her (communist, lesbian, whore, murderer) are ones that you can't justify based on your experience with her. Anytime someone generates such hate in me, I really have to look inside myself to find out where it's coming from, because it sure isn't coming from a person I do not know except through speeches and books. Many years ago, I grew up in Missouri and although I haven't lived there for many years, I'm glad to know there are many people not like you as she lost Missouri by a very small margin. Write me a sentence about what you don't like about Hillary without the labels. | Condi Rice IS a real, dignified woman...Hillary is FAR from that. I respect Condi as a stateswoman and a woman in general. There are other women (real women) I WOULD vote for indeed. If they get up there, I would PROVE it. Hillary Clinton should shame all women and, to me, you would think women would disown her as nothing but a political beast. So, anytime someone says something about Hillary...OH, IT'S BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN...BS, and I won't hear of it myself.
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04.08.2008
|  | Anti-Hillary Forum - Owner | | Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Big Sandy, TN Age: 37
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| | | Ok, do you think you would forget about being "pinned down by sniper fire." I certainly wouldn't I can tell you that! Do you think she didn't know what her husband was doing all those years and didn't care due to her political ambitions? Um, I don't think so. Hillary lies with such ease it TRULY scares me. Then she went on Jay Leno and jokes about being pinned down by snipers while getting into the Jay Leno Show...WOW! I mean she gives me shivers down my spine! Hillary makes $100,000 (on an investment) where even financial experts say it would be a miracle to do that. I mean, read through this forum, I cannot remember all right here and now, but the information IS here...lots of it anyway. I DESPISE habitual liars of ANY race, gender, etc. PERIOD.
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04.08.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ottawa
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| | | judydreams--well you have again missed the point of my last post. You are not a manhater because you support hillary or "hank" as I call her. The tone and content of your posts attest to that. What about the other side of bill's presidency? Nearly impeached his conduct in no way can be condoned--balanced budget or not. What about nafta? "hank" says that she did not support it. Never heard that reported anywhere in the news. Funny how we choose to see only what supports the "hank and bill" charade.
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04.08.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Guru | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 63
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| | | "Isn't it interesting that because I support Hillary, I am a "manhater." Now that's fantasyland. Supporting Hillary has nothing to do with hating men."
Judy, I think what 33sharks was getting at was a tongue in cheek about you assuming that any man who opposes Hillary must be opposing her because he doesn't want to vote for a woman for President.
"I actually have two sons, one is a libertarian and one is an Obama supporter. "
Sounds like you have a couple of bright sons. You should listen to them.
"As for health care, Hillary's plan is not "socialized" medicine. "
Anytime the government controls health care, it is socialized medicine.
"Apparently you do not know any of the millions of people who work everyday and simply cannot afford health insurance."
Then give them vouchers or include them on Medicaid, or give them refunds on their tax returns in which to buy insurance. You don't have to put everybody on a government health care system just to insure those who currently don't have insurance. Another thing that is wrong about Hillary's health insurance scheme is that it forces everybody to buy insurance. Some healthy people would rather spend their money on other things besides health insurance. This is a coercive governmental policy that runs contrary to the principles of which this country was founded.
"You are telling me that we as a nation cannot come up with a solution to our health care crisis that provides health care to all of our citizens at a reasonable cost because I think we can."
Yes we can with Hillarycare, but at the expense of rationing as it is in all other countries with socialized medicine. We lead the world in new medical technology and medicines because we aren't so concerned with costs as those who run government run health insurance are. If we adopt Hillary's or Obama's scheme, where is the world going to get it's new medical technology and medicine? There will be a great decline in new medical technology and medicines.
"Hillary is not actually that "liberal." She is probably the most conservative of all of the candidates with some exceptions on social issues. "
The ADA, a liberal organization, rated her as the most liberal Senator in the Senate along with Kerry and Kennedy. She is positioning herself as a centrist in order to fool the voters. I made this same point months ago at this site. One of the members of this blog, Drig, who is a liberal didn't believe me so he checked it out himself. He said he looked at 6 rating organizations and found that all 6 showed her to be a flaming liberal. Go back and see if you can find his post.
"I think Hillary would bring some fiscal responsibility back to our government."
Not with all the big spending proposals she's making.
"In other words, the government shouldn't spend money that it doesn't have."
Her solution will be to raise taxes sky high which will wreck our economy.
"If you remember, under Bill Clinton's administration, we actually had a balanced budget. Just compare that to the Bush administration who seems to think the solution is just printing more money and spending it."
Bill Clinton profited from the high tech economy. Also, the Republican dominated Congress acted more responsibly then than how they've done during the Bush II years. Clinton had nothing to do with the balanced budget. If Hillarycare would have passed, we would have either had a huge deficit or extremely high taxes, or seriously rationed services.
judydreams, you're dreaming! You're obviously out of touch with reality. You need to listen to your sons, particularly the one who is libertarian. You can keep on dreaming about a Hillary Presidency, but I'm afraid all it will bring us is a nightmare. | 
04.08.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Mar 2007
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