I am in favor of Hillary

[vote hillary]

Hello, I see that you welcome those in favor of hillary to introduce themselves as well. I am in fact very much in favor of hillary for president. I realize that I am out numbered on this site, but I would like to voice my opinion anyway. I am having trouble with some of the comments that I have read on here. I hear women saying that a women should not be president or any other figure of authority. People are speaking as though women are stupid and not capable of doing a "man's job". I like to consider myself an intelligent person. I have a Ph.D in molecular biology and happen to hold a high position at a research facility where both men and women are under my direction, and I happen to be a woman. I have been following the campaign and there is no doubt in my mind that Hillary is in fact the best candidate. I read a woman say that the bible states that women she not have authority, and I have yet to know any christian person to believe that Jesus himself would say that any child of God is not capable. I believe that God created everyone equal. The country is ready and in need of a woman president. If I had any doubt about her capability I would not put my opinion in writing. I look forward to hearing other views and opinions, as well as anyone else who shares my view.

[nohil-billy]

Vote Hillary, lets not confuse our derision of Hillary as a blanket opinion of all women. Most of these people on this site would vote for the likes of Condi, Jean Kirkpatrick, or any of a number of level-headed conservative women. I agree that anybody who says that a woman shouldn't be president because she's a woman is indeed narrow minded. However, it sounds like you're backing Hillary only because she's a woman. With just a little bit of research you could find a myriad of reasons to find this particlar woman objectional and unfit to lead this country. As a Ph.D in one of the sciences, research should be right up your alley, why don't you do some.

I also love when people inject religion into these discussions as if we are a bunch of bible-thumping, evangelicals who will only see the light when a Ph.D in Science shows us the error of our ways. Everyone is indeed "CREATED EQUAL," it's what you do with it afterwards that counts.

Please research this site. It's not as biased as you would believe and you may discover somewhere along the line how Hillary has treated persons of your gender in the name of covering for her husbands foibles.

[WiseOne]

Hi, Vote Hillary, you are most certainly welcome here...that's what America is about...free speech. I agree that a woman COULD be good for America and I WOULD vote for the RIGHT one at some point. However, Hillary Clinton is FAR from the woman who should be the first woman President. IMHO, Hillary is a Socialist and she scares me deeply.

"We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." — Hillary Rodham Clinton

scares me the most!

I, ma'am, am soooo sick and tired of the Clinton scandals even after EIGHT years have already gone by. To me, Hillary Clinton is NOT a "woman," she is a Political BEAST, simple. IF she cannot run her house...I don't want her running OUR White House.

[nohil-billy]

WiseOne, I love this site and I appreciate you giving me a place to go and vent, but I have to ask you to please not be so P f'n C to the pro-Hillary people. This woman is a Ph.D! If she's this ignorant about Hillary it's on purpose. Can you say SOCIALIST? We are on a mission and "nice" is not on the agenda.

QUIT! or I'll start calling you McWiseOne.

[PeroW-Cheney]

Originally Posted by vote hillary

I believe that God created everyone equal.

God creating everyone equal is very different than Hillary creating everyone equal.

If God created everyone equal, then there would be no justification for federal egalitarian policies to enforce mandatory redistributions of wealth and opportunity. Government does not exist redistribute what God has given each individual. Rather, government should be a lesser entity than the individual who is lesser than God. Hillary is not consistent with that viewpoint. Hillary puts government higher than the individual, between the individual and God. Actually, that is the way it already is with or without Hillary. But she will make it worse.

Originally Posted by vote hillary

I hear women saying that a women should not be president or any other figure of authority. People are speaking as though women are stupid and not capable of doing a "man's job".

I never saw that. Maybe I need to dig for it and I'll find where somebody said something that fits what you claim here. I've worked for women bosses before. It is no big deal to me. A boss is a boss. As a matter of fact, I love women! I worship them. Perhaps not enough, by your standard. But women rock my world! If I find what you claim in this website, I would disagree with that person. But if I don't find it, I would think perhaps a thin skinned insecurity is the source of your misperception. Only somebody like Condi Rice on the ticket will save us from that false accusation. Until we vote for Condi, Hillary Haters are sexist and racists and bigots and mean and evil by definition, right?

Originally Posted by vote hillary

I have a Ph.D in molecular biology and happen to hold a high position at a research facility where both men and women are under my direction, and I happen to be a woman. .

When you run for president, let us know. Maybe I'll vote for you.

Just curious... Does your company revenue come from taxpayer funded federal research grants? After that, then do you license your intellectual property to overseas manufacturing? Are there more people on your company's board of directors than there are employees' cars in the company's parking lot? Maybe if I had your job, I'd vote Hillary, too! You know Clintons love exporting American manufacturing just as much as the Bushs do. Americans will have to learn how to speak mandarin and cantonese if they ever want a job manufacturing a product that you invented. Keep up the good work, and "Shay Shay!"


"McWiseOne"...LOL!

[nohil-billy]

Just for the record vh, a majority of female workers surveyed said they preferred a male boss over a female boss.

What is it about you people?

[AsNat]

First of all Hillary is not only one woman who is having a high poaition and wants to have a higher one. When Margaret Thatcher became a PM I don't remember that her gender was in focuse at all. Simply she was so much qualified for this position that no one discussed her gender at all. What about Hillary all we see only her personal achivements intended to develop more and more power. There is no significant records what she really did for our country. Nothing is done for NY state what she promised when she was becoming a senator. Upstate New York is getting poorer and poorer in jobs. She has already been for 8 years in White House and that "We have two presidents in price of one" are her and her husband's words, not people's. So 8 years were enough to work with healthcare reform that she is promising. Also is she is proud that she is a feminist and fights for women's rights. But so far she worked for only one female, for herself. I think that it is more selfism than feminism.
I am a female myself and gender is too wide definition. Female gender has highly inteligent women and criminal women as well as males and we don't have to put them together and treat them same way. So gender is not an issue in this case

[Corvair]

Originally Posted by PeroW-Cheney

...If I find what you claim in this website, I would disagree with that person. But if I don't find it, I would think perhaps a thin skinned insecurity is the source of your misperception...

Pero, the remark is out there somewhere. I forget which thread it's on but I saw it myself. Thought it was a bit strange...

As for our beloved Hillary, it would be very helpful if she would outline her oft mentioned "experience." She says repeatedly that she has "35 years of experience." Well, what the heck is it? Blurting out a claim over and over won't make it true.

Nobody ever talks about any piece of legislation that bears her name, though she's been in the Senate for seven years. She claims to have been involved in countless major decisions during the Clinton administration, but she never says what they were and we are not allowed to see any records of them.

The truth is she's a self-absorbed fraud. The fact that she's even viable as a candidate is stunning.

[vote hillary]

Originally Posted by imgonnamove

I doubt I can say anything about Hillary Clinton that the rest of this forum doesn't already say. I can't imagine why any idiot would vote for her. What is wrong with people???? I'm telling you - if for some reason she DOES become President, I'm moving. I can't be in a country that is dumb enough to make her President. "Hi, my husband cheats on me and there are so many reasons I should NOT be President. I have ties to all kinds of corrupt dealings and oh, yeah, I'm a woman". Ya know, I'm a woman too and I think I have the right - as a woman - to say A WOMAN SHOULDN'T BE PRESIDENT. I believe in the Bible and it states that women shouldn't hold high positions. WHY?? I wonder - maybe because we all rely on our emotions too much? Could you imagine this woman, probably menopausal, sitting next to the red button? "I think I'm gonna be a b*tch today and wake up on the wrong side of the bed and hmmm, this button, I'll push it and see what happens BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IT!!!" If you want a communist country - vote for her.

This is the thread I found all the information that I was making reference to. These are the kinds of ignorant and uneducated remarks that bias an election. Those of you with views against Hillary Clinton that are backed up by educated comments and real statements are points well taken, even though I don't agree. However, people with sexist and just plain stupid comments need to look further into what they stand for.
Also, for the person who asked about my lab's funding; some of it is federal funding while we do have private funding as well. My facility is not in the business of inventing any products other than cures for catastrophic diseases. We are a group of scientists and doctors who study and research pathology and medical advances. There is no out sourcing of any kind to any other country. We pride ourselves, as Americans, on being leaders in world wide medical studies. I am a strong advocate for stem cell research and worked hard on getting the last bill passed, the one that president Bush would not allow. This is just one more reason I am in favor of Hillary. I believe she will allow us to begin going forward with stem cell research after so many years of being held back.

[nohil-billy]

I do remember that post and you must take that remark in the context in which it was intended. According to the Bible, depending on how deeply you believe and how literally you interpret it, women are not supposed to usurp the authority of the man or hold high positions. This is not an ignorant or uneducated remark on her part. It's part of that lady's belief.

The first time I posted to rebut your remarks I was tempted to call you on the fact that as a Ph.D in Science, chances are that you are not very well versed in scripture. This is why I believe that scripture shouldn't be injected into politics because it is most likely to be misused by those who do not believe and are trying to score points.

As a true Democrat, you are going to vote for this woman with the jaded past simply because she offered you something you want. Embryonic (funny you forgot that word in your post ) stem cell research. As far as I know, stem cell research is legal, and didn't I hear recently that the adult stem cells can be manipulated to give them the same properties as embryonic stem cells making embryonic stem cell research unnecessary?

So you see vote hillary, as a Ph.d your remarks can't be called uneducated but they can be interpreted as misleading and therefore equally as ignorant because not all of us understand molecular biology and you aren't being straight forward.