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02.13.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plattsburg, Mo.
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| | | You've cleared some things up for me and I thank you. I seem to remember though, that a major breakthrough in stem cell manipulation, in the last month or so, had made embryonic stem cell research unnecessary.
I used to trust science and scientist more than I do these days. It seems many of them will say or do whatever is in their own best interest as they are doing on the global warming issue, and sometimes I feel they take certain positions just to poke the religious community in the eye. | | Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Hillary For President Forum For Free. Sponsored Links: | | 
02.13.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Guru | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 61
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| | | I have no opposition to embryonic stem cell research. I just believe it should be privately funded as I believe all scientific research should be. The Constitution doesn't give the Federal Government authority to engage in scientific research. | 
02.13.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ottawa
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| | | Hey-I am in favor of hillary--you sound like an intelligent woman. I have no problem with her gender I could care less. But I do not know how you can not see through her smoke-screen. She is in this race for one purpose--power. She will not let anyone or anything stand in her way on any matter. She is a megalomaniac. In addition she is married to a man who has never been faithful and who by all intents was impeached by the House and was involved in many other underhanded political schemes. One Clinton has done enough damage to this country two will wreck what little credibility we have left to the rest of the world. | 
02.13.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: united states of america
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| | | Hi pero. I see your point and we obviously cannot see eye to eye on this. Of course we hire within our country first. There are hundreds of labs across the country, not just where I work. Not only do labs employ doctors and scientists, but clerical help, technicians, courier companies, and so many others. As the work load increases so does the help. Not only do research labs give jobs, they save lives. If the federal government funds my research or any other, the outcome is much more beneficial than just economic. There are plenty of private groups and wealthy people who give all they can give, and this is what keeps most labs and research hospitals going. I am sure this funding will continue as long as there are people who care in this country. I happen to have a problem with our country wasting astronomical amounts of money on war, but cry poor when it comes to medical research and health care. I see your point and I respect your ideas as I hope you do mine. I also encourage you to send as much as you can afford the next time you receive an envelope in the mail from St. Jude's. As you pointed out this type of funding should be private, and your contribution would be deeply appreciated by all. | 
02.15.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 52
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by vote hillary Before being a scientist I am a mother, and that will play the biggest role in my decision on election day. | I am a mother also, I am also educated as well! And that's why I find it extremely important to go with my Republicans. I'd prefer Huckabee but if McCain is my only choice, so be it!
Now I'm not against having a woman in office - provided she's the RIGHT one and Hillary is NOT that! | 
02.15.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 40
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Originally Posted by vote hillary Hi pero. I see your point and we obviously cannot see eye to eye on this. | All I ask is for new mechanisms to keep the future jobs on American soil. We already gave away all of our old jobs in the 90's when Clinton was in office. I want to keep the new ones in America. Maybe medical research is a different situation than other products. I have thoughts how keeping those other jobs here can be accomplished. When I look at the incubator start ups that are popping up around Ohio State, I don't believe we have a chance to keep those new jobs here unless it becomes the primary focus of the grant writing process. How can somebody who lives on grant money understand what it takes to make a profit driven manufacturing facility in a globally competitive market?
We borrow money from China to pay researchers to invent new jobs that go straight to China. What sense does that make? Why not just let China pay for their own research? Likewise, why not let Japan, Germany, and Iraq re-imburse us for the defense we provide? I agree with you that far, but pulling out of Iraq will not solve the budget crisis. It is bigger than if we never went there.
And I love it when legal immigrants come to America and get research jobs. We "brain drain" everybody else.
Yesterday, Hillary was in Columbus talking about the bad guys sending Ohio's jobs overseas. Why is it that Hillary takes her husband's experience for her personal resume, yet claims no responsibility when Bill signed NAFTA and GATT? Doesn't she know what happened to jobs in Ohio after Bill did that?
(I have my husband's experience, but don't blame me for NAFTA and GATT. I only want to take credit for the good things.)
__________________ I have just the same right to vote for a candidate who is certain to lose the election as any Kerry supporter had the right to do so in 2004.
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03.07.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Newbie | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: portland
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| | Yay for a woman president As an educated young woman in the united states, I feel that Hillary Clinton is a huge role model. When I was a little girl, I remember saying to my daddy "some day I want to be the president" and he sat me down and said "honey that will probably never happen because you are woman" I got the same reaction when I said ok, I'll be the CEO of Intel!
What I am saying is that we need a woman president to allow women all over the united states and the world to KNOW that they have the potential to be anything that they want to be.
Hillary Clinton is the best thing to happen to women in a long time. I hope that all women vote for her. Not only is she a woman, but she is for universal health care, and children's rights.. Please don't call me a socialist and then complain when you have to pay a bill for your dentist appointment.
I feel sorry for the woman who posted that thinks that only a man should be a president....wow, how depressing that women can't rise up against this male dominated country. I can hear the comments about me being a feminist, and I can assure you I am not. I just want the same rights that men have, and I want to wash away that image of my father feeling sorry for me because I was born a woman
Yay Hillary! | 
03.07.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Guru | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 61
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| | | "I feel that Hillary Clinton is a huge role model."
About as much as Bonnie of Bonnie and Clyde. Hillary and Bonnie = both crooks.
"What I am saying is that we need a woman president to allow women all over the united states and the world to KNOW that they have the potential to be anything that they want to be."
Not that woman! The same argument could be made that we need a black president to allow blacks all over the US that they have the potential to be anything they want to be, but that isn't a good reason to vote for somebody. You should vote for them on the basis of their views, integrity (which rules Hillary out), and administrative skills.
"Hillary Clinton is the best thing to happen to women in a long time."
The way she covered up her husband's violations of them?
"she is for universal health care"
A good reason to vote against her. Why do we want a system in this country which has been a failure in every country its ever been tried?
"Please don't call me a socialist and then complain when you have to pay a bill for your dentist appointment."
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Taxes are prohibitably high in countries with socialized medicine. The high taxes have created chronically high unemployment rates of 10%. People complain about the high taxes, so to keep the taxes down, the government resorts to rationing of health care and cutting down on research and development. That's why the vast majority of new medicines come from the US, because we have plenty of available funds for it.
Most of us in here would be willing to vote for a woman for president, but not a crooked socialist like Hillary | 
03.07.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Age: 38
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| | | Is there a real reason ...... not to vote for Hillary. I have seen the lame excuses about her husband. And may have resorted to the bible, which was written by men. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen anyone presenting any proff of anything that would discredit Hillary from being president. So allow me: (and this goes for Obama and John Dubya McCain) None of these fools will: End middle eastern military involvment (even Hillary will not commit to ending military actions in Iraq, by the end of her 4 year term) End Bush's presidential powers he elected himself Secure the borders Deport the Illegals in our prison system End welfare for illegals Define life as "beginning at Conception" (VH, as a scientist, even you should agree with that) Return our monetary system to being back by something of worth. End NAFTA or CAFTA Abolish unconstitutional agentcies and Departments within our Government (Dept. of Education, Transportation, homeland security) Abolish Social Security taxes Abolish Income Taxes for nurses & Teachers Abolish the "tip tax" for the waitress's and waitors who make less than minimum wage Stop subsidies to foreign countries Stop corporate welfare Allow free trade that doesn't allow for higher tarriffs for American exports Stop the National ID card (Real ID) Send the Canadian and Mexican trucks back to their own country Allow tax credits for health care Stop the Federal Reserve from destroying our Dollar Stop giving hand outs to mortgage companies that give loans to "unqualified" borrowers Stop the Federal Government regulations, taxes and corporate subsidies that have distorted the energy market. And allow a "free" market to lower prices through competition. Allow the 2nd Amendment to stand as the Constitution discribes. Stop spending from the Social Security trust fund Allow a more "humble" foreign policy These are are just a few of the reasons why I'm not voting for Hillary, Obama or Mc-insane. So, VH, I have a question. Hillary says she will give our tax money to help develope stem cells. Tell me something, what gives her or congress the power to spend our tax money on stem cells? And, considering they pass it, and the funding is released, what makes you think that the Government won't own, tax and regulate everything in the science field to the point that nothing good can come of it. You know as well as I do, that when the Government funds something (like the department of Education), there will be no "free market" for the developers, scientist, or recipients. | 
03.08.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ottawa
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| | | Hey Damask-if an underhanded lying rat like hil'ry is the "best thing to happen to women in a long time" I feel sorry for your gender. In my book there are many more women that you should be celebrating. Make no mistake she is a "powermad socialist" and will stop at nothing to attain her goals. Answer this, how come she did not go back to Arkansas to become a Senator? Answer: she had no chance of getting elected. Moving to her New York "roots" was the only way she would be able to weasel her way back to the White House. She is a crook just like her "faithful, non-inhaling, what is is" husband
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