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[Coastie]

Well I was on another Forum today, and someone was saying we should not be in Iraq. That America Does not Fight to bring down Bad guys. Well Politics are not allowed to be discussed on that forum, So I did a little research, and found some information I sent there way. Hillary is one of the many Democrats saying No WMD has been found in Iraq. I had met a Soldier of the 101 Air Borne who stated in the earlier part of the War they did find some then. I found 2 articls that also states they did in 2005 and 2006.

Iraqi Chemical Stash Uncovered

Post-Invasion Cache Could Have Been For Use in Weapons

By Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, August 14, 2005; Page A18
BAGHDAD, Aug. 13 -- U.S. troops raiding a warehouse in the northern city of Mosul uncovered a suspected chemical weapons factory containing 1,500 gallons of chemicals believed destined for attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces and civilians, military officials said Saturday.
Monday's early morning raid found 11 precursor agents, "some of them quite dangerous by themselves," a military spokesman, Lt. Col. Steven A. Boylan, said in Baghdad. Combined, the chemicals would yield an agent capable of "lingering hazards" for those exposed to it, Boylan said. The likely targets would have been "coalition and Iraqi security forces, and Iraqi civilians," partly because the chemicals would be difficult to keep from spreading over a wide area, he said.
Boylan said the suspected lab was new, dating from some time after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. The Bush administration cited evidence that Saddam Hussein's government was manufacturing weapons of mass destruction as the main justification for the invasion. No such weapons or factories were found.
Military officials did not immediately identify either the precursors or the agent they could have produced. "We don't want to speculate on any possibilities until our analysis is complete," Col. Henry Franke, a nuclear, biological and chemical defense officer, was quoted as saying in a military statement.
Investigators still were trying to determine who had assembled the alleged lab and whether the expertise came from foreign insurgents or former members of Hussein's security apparatus, the military said.
"They're looking into it," Boylan said. "They've got to go through it -- there's a lot of stuff there." He added that there was no indication that U.S. forces would be ordered to carry chemical warfare gear, such as gas masks and chemical suits, as they did during the invasion and the months immediately afterward.
U.S. military photos of the alleged lab showed a bare concrete-walled room scattered with stacks of plastic containers, coiled tubing, hoses and a stand holding a large metal device that looked like a distillery. Black rubber boots lay among the gear.
The suspected chemical weapons lab was the biggest found so far in Iraq, Boylan said. A lab discovered last year in the insurgent stronghold of Fallujah contained a how-to book on chemical weapons and an unspecified amount of chemicals.
Chemical weapons are divided into the categories of "persistent" agents, which wreak damage for hours, such as blistering agents or the oily VX nerve agent, and "nonpersistent" ones, which dissipate quickly, such as chlorine gas or sarin nerve gas.
Iraqi forces under Hussein used chemical agents both on enemy forces in the 1980s war with Iran and on Iraqi Kurdish villagers in 1988. Traces of a variety of killing agents -- mustard gas and the nerve agents sarin, tabun and VX -- were detected by investigators after the 1988 attack.
No chemical weapons are known to have been used so far in Iraq's insurgency. Al Qaeda announced after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States that it was looking into acquiring biological, radiological and chemical weapons. The next year, CNN obtained and aired al Qaeda videotapes showing the killings of three dogs with what were believed to be nerve agents.
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Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq

Thursday, June 22, 2006
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WASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This No Hillary For President Forum Link. in [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This No Hillary For President Forum Link. since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.
"We have found [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This No Hillary For President Forum Link. in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.
Reading from a declassified portion of a report by the National Ground Intelligence Center, a Defense Department intelligence unit, Santorum said: "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."
He added that the report warns about the hazards that the chemical weapons could still pose to coalition troops in Iraq.
"The purity of the agents inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives and environmental storage conditions. While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal," Santorum read from the document.
"This says weapons have been discovered, more weapons exist and they state that Iraq was not a WMD-free zone, that there are continuing threats from the materials that are or may still be in Iraq," said Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
The weapons are thought to be manufactured before 1991 so they would not be proof of an ongoing WMD program in the 1990s. But they do show that Saddam Hussein was lying when he said all weapons had been destroyed, and it shows that years of on-again, off-again weapons inspections did not uncover these munitions.
Hoekstra said the report, completed in April but only declassified now, shows that "there is still a lot about Iraq that we don't fully understand."
Asked why the Bush administration, if it had known about the information since April or earlier, didn't advertise it, Hoekstra conjectured that the president has been forward-looking and concentrating on the development of a secure government in Iraq.
Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.
"This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991," the official said, adding the munitions "are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war."
The official said the findings did raise questions about the years of weapons inspections that had not resulted in locating the fairly sizeable stash of chemical weapons. And he noted that it may say something about Hussein's intent and desire. The report does suggest that some of the weapons were likely put on the black market and may have been used outside Iraq.
He also said that the Defense Department statement shortly after the March 2003 invasion saying that "we had all known weapons facilities secured," has proven itself to be untrue.
"It turned out the whole country was an ammo dump," he said, adding that on more than one occasion, a conventional weapons site has been uncovered and chemical weapons have been discovered mixed within them.
Hoekstra and Santorum lamented that Americans were given the impression after a 16-month search conducted by the Iraq Survey Group that the evidence of continuing research and development of weapons of mass destruction was insignificant. But the National Ground Intelligence Center took up where the ISG left off when it completed its report in November 2004, and in the process of collecting intelligence for the purpose of force protection for soldiers and sailors still on the ground in Iraq, has shown that the weapons inspections were incomplete, they and others have said.
"We know it was there, in place, it just wasn't operative when inspectors got there after the war, but we know what the inspectors found from talking with the scientists in Iraq that it could have been cranked up immediately, and that's what Saddam had planned to do if the sanctions against Iraq had halted and they were certainly headed in that direction," said Fred Barnes, editor of The Weekly Standard and a FOX News contributor.
"It is significant. Perhaps, the administration just, they think they weathered the debate over WMD being found there immediately and don't want to return to it again because things are otherwise going better for them, and then, I think, there's mindless resistance to releasing any classified documents from Iraq," Barnes said.
The release of the declassified materials comes as the Senate debates Democratic proposals to create a timetable for U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq. The debate has had the effect of creating disunity among Democrats, a majority of whom shrunk Wednesday from an amendment proposed by Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts to have troops to be completely withdrawn from Iraq by the middle of next year.
At the same time, congressional Republicans have stayed highly united, rallying around a White House that has seen successes in the last couple weeks, first with the death of terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, then the completion of the formation of Iraq's Cabinet and then the announcement Tuesday that another key Al Qaeda in Iraq leader, "religious emir" Mansour Suleiman Mansour Khalifi al-Mashhadani, or Sheik Mansour, was also killed in a U.S. airstrike.
Santorum pointed out that during Wednesday's debate, several Senate Democrats said that no weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq, a claim, he said, that the declassified document proves is untrue.
"This is an incredibly — in my mind — significant finding. The idea that, as my colleagues have repeatedly said in this debate on the other side of the aisle, that there are no weapons of mass destruction, is in fact false," he said.
As a result of this new information, under the aegis of his chairmanship, Hoekstra said he is going to ask for more reporting by the various intelligence agencies about weapons of mass destruction.
"We are working on the declassification of the report. We are going to do a thorough search of what additional reports exist in the intelligence community. And we are going to put additional pressure on the Department of Defense and the folks in Iraq to more fully pursue a complete investigation of what existed in Iraq before the war," Hoekstra said.
FOX News' Jim Angle and Sharon Kehnemui Liss contributed to this report.

Well I hate a Lier to themax, So here just one more reason I do not like her or any of the other Democrats.

[I love Pink]

Originally Posted by iammebo

I just want you to know I agree. I am a woman and would like to see a woman as president but NOT Hillary Clinton. She proved she only says what she thinks people want to hear. She is the worst thing that could happen to this country ever. She is not to be trusted. I am proud I voted for Bush and would do it again. He did not want war but it is better to fight them over there than to have to fight them here. He knew that. Why don't other people know that? For goodness sakes they started it. Remember 9/11?

Within less than two years we will have a woman, a truly smart woman in the White House, and it will be Hillary. The way you describe her, I thought you were talking about George Bush. How could you have ever voted for somebody so unintelligent. Of course I remember 9-11. How many Iraqi's were flying the planes? Hillary is a lot tougher than you give her credit for. She won't waist our resources in Iraq, let them have their civil war, even though we caused it. She will take on Iran when the chips are down. Cheers, Jennifer

[I love Pink]

Dear Mr Wise One: As the site Administrator is it appropriate for you to be so negative on Hillary. I thought a forum like this was for exchanging ideas. No Hillary for a Better Tomorrow? That is pretty lame, she's a great Senator, the folks in NY love her, as will the rest of the U.S. when she is finally back in the White House. She will restore America to it's proper place in the world. Cheers, Jennifer

[I love Pink]

To Mr. Coastie:

Oh please, everybody that is sane knows that those were left over from the first war and of no use. Face it we blew it on the WMD deal and Bush just started the war to finish it for his Dad. That being said, I can agree with taking out Saddam as he was responsible for the attempted assination of his dad. That could have been handled more appropriately with Seals or Delta Force rather than starting an entire war. For that matter, we could have flown drowns with hell fire missals over areas where he would likely be found and smoked him that way. Isn't that what the CIA is for? Bush just wanted this war so he could act like a tough guy and help him get reelected. He's just another "all hat, no cattle" Texan, albeit with an Ivy League education and a trust fund. I'm surprised that he isn't being impeached for crimes against humanity. Cheers, Jennifer

[oz007]

great excerpts ...
.is there not one good honest Dem who will fess up- -and tell us what's really motivating them beyond "simple minded party politics " and spineless cowardly selfish carrot money?- -what's in it for me? Well, there won't be anything left for anybody she hill will botch it disguise it and take most of it for herself then every body left will have to abide by her lesbo crack #### headfield marshalls for the "divy up" which will probably = nothing ..the first union strike in her America will be the last - -you no darn well this is one "old fart" whose only good 5 days a month ! if that
power breeds corrupsion her type of power breed total corruption and violence against the good - -her motto is every good deed must not go un-punished ?

Hillary Clinton only says what she thinks will get her elected.Hillary Clinton only says what she thinks will get her elected. It's a shame, because I would really love to be able to have a woman president. Just not this woman. I'd vote for a woman in a heart beat if she had principlesHillary did not improve the school system in Arkansas. When the Clintons entered the Governor's Mansion, Arkansas was rated 49th in the country in education. When they left, it was still rated 49th.

[MrsCinAZ]

I definitely will not be voting for that socialist, Hillary.

If possible, I'm voting for Duncan Hunter. I'm trying to get the word out about him, because he stands conservatively on all sides of the issues and I really like the things I've heard and read about him and the things he's said and voted for/against.

[WiseOne]

Welcome, MrsCinAz! I have added a Duncan Hunter Forum under the Republican section. NoHitlery has already posted in that section. Enjoy, and glad to have you here!

[againsthillary]

Originally Posted by WiseOne

Welcome all you NO Hillary For President Fans! I, too, do NOT want Hillary Rodham Clinton to ever see the presidency. This is an American crisis, IMHO. We must stand together to fight off Hillary Clinton and make sure she NEVER makes it! Thanks for visiting and please let me know of any new forums we need to get this site rocking and doing it's job perfectly

Hillary is going to go for votes from the young women who were small children during her HUSBAND'S administration. They will not be as aware of her past with Whitewater, Travelgate, and all of the Clinton scandals. Hillary is a socialist and is probably one of the most ruthless and dangerous politicians in modern history.

[WiseOne]

Hillary is going to go for votes from the young women who were small children during her HUSBAND'S administration. They will not be as aware of her past with Whitewater, Travelgate, and all of the Clinton scandals. Hillary is a socialist and is probably one of the most ruthless and dangerous politicians in modern history.

Welcome, AgainstHillary, I concur with your statement above! I tell ya, I am heartened to see those of you, with brains, come in and speak out. It really makes me feel great to see people drop the apathy and become involved. Hillary is a "clear and present danger" and the usual apathy had better be dropped (at least for this Presidential election) or we face the likes of another Clinton in the White House and it CAN (very well might) happen! I truly don't think most Americans understand how devious this woman is, but...we'll teach them in here! Let them know!

[cesarq641]

Hillary must not become President, and before liberals get their panties in a bunch, it is NOT because she is a woman. Hell, I would for for Margaret Thatcher in a heart beat if she were running. The reason she must not succeed is her disdain for capitalism, disdain for our military, and disdain for freedom in general. Hillary supporters, ask yourselves, what has Hillary accomplished in her adult life that you feel qualifies her for the Presidency? or is the best you can do is that it just FEELS right to vote for her?