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[flaja]

Originally Posted by Herb Schaffler

"They consider getting high a benefit."

It helps more with reducing the nausea than the pills.

If you are stoned on pot, how do you know whether or not you have nausea?

BTW: I’ve heard that the newest chemo-drugs don’t produce the nausea that used to be associated chemotherapy. Last year my mother was on a chemotherapy drug for lupus and believe me if there anyway that this drug could have made her sick to her stomach it would have, but it didn’t.

[hrdman2luv]

Originally Posted by flaja

The supposed active ingredient that makes pot a cancer drug has long been synthesized in the lab and is available in pill form.

I guess you missed the "broke" part. You know, most terminally ill patients, unless well financed before becoming terminally ill, don't have a lot of money.
Hospice is a massively huge organization. Reason being, most people, by the end of their ordeals with cancer, aids, or other cases, are usually low on funds. And for $100, a person can get a lot of relief with that $100.

But try to buy a months worth of morphine on $100... Heck, try to buy 1 week of morphine on $100. It aint gonna happen.

And besides all that, the drug copanies are responsible for the Marijuana laws. There is you some really interesting research.

[flaja]

Originally Posted by hrdman2luv

I guess you missed the "broke" part. You know, most terminally ill patients, unless well financed before becoming terminally ill, don't have a lot of money.

I guess you’ve never heard of Medicare or Medicaid or ever seen jars in retail check-out lines for people to donate money to impoverished medical patients.

Hospice is a massively huge organization. Reason being, most people, by the end of their ordeals with cancer, aids, or other cases, are usually low on funds.

No. My late uncle had in-home hospice care during the last few months of his life. He died from a brain tumor that was likely due to exposure at a local chemical company fire. After coming home from Nam my uncle spent 30 years as a fire fighter. He made excellent money. When he died his house was paid for as were his and my aunt’s two vehicles. And before he died he sold most of his $100,000 gun collection because his wife wouldn’t know what to do with it. You need not be broke to get hospice.

And for $100, a person can get a lot of relief with that $100.

But try to buy a months worth of morphine on $100...

What a fool you must be. If you have the symptoms that medical pot is presribed for, taking morphine would do you no good. Morphine is a pain killer. THC and pot are taken to combat nausea. You are comparing apples and oranges and thus showing your ignorance of this matter.

And besides all that, the drug copanies are responsible for the Marijuana laws.

You have documentation for this libel?

[nohil-billy]

I was always under the impression that the #1 benefit of marijuana was the side effect known commonly as "The Munchies." Cancer patients don't feel like eating but marijuana encourages it.

[flaja]

Originally Posted by nohil-billy

I was always under the impression that the #1 benefit of marijuana was the side effect known commonly as "The Munchies." Cancer patients don't feel like eating but marijuana encourages it.

This is part and parcel of marijuana’s supposed ability as an antiemitic. It’s hard to maintain your weight when chemo has you throwing up all the time.

[Herb Schaffler]

Originally Posted by nohil-billy

I was always under the impression that the #1 benefit of marijuana was the side effect known commonly as "The Munchies." Cancer patients don't feel like eating but marijuana encourages it.

Yes, marijuana is also good for that. I think conservatives often have such a knee jerk reaction against drugs that are currently illegal that they are resistant to allowing their use. They are afraid they'll be sending the wrong message if they're legalized. But why the inconsistency? Why not make alcohol illegal again? There are 150,000 deaths by overdose on alcohol, but 0 for marijuana. Alcohol is provoking of violence whereas maijuana isn't. Alcohol has been found by "Car and Driver" magazine to worsen motor skills more than marijuana.

[Herb Schaffler]

"And besides all that, the drug copanies are responsible for the Marijuana laws."

Maybe what h2l has in mind is the Harrison Narcotic Act which was an act to create doctors' monopoly on prescribing drugs. Many people mistakenly believe these drugs were made illegal by this law, but these drugs are actually legal if prescribed by a doctor.

[Herb Schaffler]

"Most Republicans are not conservative."

Is support of public education at the state level a liberal position?

Incidentally, I neglected to rebut your poisition concerning the Northwest Ordinance. True, the Northwest Ordinance set aside land for the purpose of public education, but it was not the intent for the Federal Government to be involved in it. That was reserved for the states and localities once states were carved out of the territory.

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because this Congressman did not think to apply the 14th Amendment to public education does not mean that it cannot be applied to public education."

flaja, you seem to be taking a liberal position on this. Conservatives always talk against an activist judiciary, but here you are calling for just that. Conservatives believe in original intent and it's obvious from Bingham's writings that he only meant that the federal government could intervene if citizens of the several states rights were being violated. Are we to read peoples' minds and assume that they also meant this or that when we have no evidence of such and want to twist their position into agreeing with how we want to interpret the law?

[hrdman2luv]

Originally Posted by Herb Schaffler

"And besides all that, the drug copanies are responsible for the Marijuana laws."

Maybe what h2l has in mind is the Harrison Narcotic Act which was an act to create doctors' monopoly on prescribing drugs. Many people mistakenly believe these drugs were made illegal by this law, but these drugs are actually legal if prescribed by a doctor.

Here is a pretty good stroy of what I was talking about.


Many people assume that marijuana was made illegal through some kind of process involving scientific, medical, and government hearings; that it was to protect the citizens from what was determined to be a dangerous drug. The actual story shows a much different picture. Those who voted on the legal fate of this plant never had the facts, but were dependent on information supplied by those who had a specific agenda to deceive lawmakers. You'll see below that the very first federal vote to prohibit marijuana was based entirely on a documented lie on the floor of the Senate.
[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This No Hillary For President Forum Link.

[Herb Schaffler]

Notice in the article, the information on Anslinger. From what I've read in the past, Anslinger, who was involved in alcohol prohibition, needed a new boogieman to take the place of alcohol when it was re-legalized. Anslinger created a program of misinformation to justify making marijuana illegal to justify a new position for himself.