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01.30.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Herb Schaffler "What make Hitlery any worse than Obama or Edwards?" The fact that she's a crook. | ...Bullseye! | | Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Hillary For President Forum For Free. Sponsored Links: | | 
01.30.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Corvair You guys just convinced me to follow my instincts and ask for a Democratic ballot next Tuesday here in Tennessee... | Well....now I'm thinking again that I should stick to the Republican ballot. I've talked to several people in the last week who say they think Barry would be much more difficult to beat than the hag. This whole fracas between the two/three of them is really hurting the affection black voters felt for her, and she is likely to be damaged goods going into the general election. And not only that, but a lot of other liberals are turning their backs on the Clintons for their recent behavior. (I'd like to ask, are you guys just now figuring this out???? Where've you been for sixteen years?) | 
02.03.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 41
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| | Ohio's primary isn't until March 4th. I think under normal conditions, we would make no difference, but this is so close that I saw a story that Ohio and Texas may actually determine if Hillary wins or not.
If my Ohio vote will make a difference, I'm willing to trade my vote for an Obama vote in a super-Tuesday state.
If you take the risk to vote for Obama, tell me. I'll have to know you well enough to take your work for it. Then I will vote for the Republican you want in Ohio. I know my wife will vote for Obama.
This may or may not be a fair trade. You may need to let me off the deal to vote Obama, who knows? Just post before Tuesday if we have a deal. Quote:
Originally Posted by hrdman2luv I'm just wondering.........What make Hitlery any worse than Obama or Edwards? | What makes Hillary worse than Obama? Im my view, Hillary is a monster born out of Ross Perot's Reform Party. Obama didn't get where he is on the backs of third party voters. A Hillary victory will be an insufferable consequence directly evolving from my 1992 and 1996 votes for Ross Perot. I'll be da mned if my Perot votes get cashed into a 3rd term for a Clinton co-presidency.
Try to imagine my point of view. Ross Perot gets Clintons in the White House for a potential FOUR TERMS! Good God! I always knew Hillary wanted to be President, but that was just a joke in the 90's. Now it is real. I'm horrified at the consequences of my actions. Hillary must lose before I can continue supporting independents or third parties.
__________________ I have just the same right to vote for a candidate who is certain to lose the election as any Kerry supporter had the right to do so in 2004. | 
02.04.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plattsburg, Mo. Age: 50
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| | | My intention was to vote for Obama but I really abhor the idea of McCain being the Republican nominee. Since most of the Missouri Dems are backing Obama, I figured I could go ahead and vote for Romney instead. Let me check the latest polling data, but I'd be willing to vote for Obama for a Romney vote down the line. If you think this would be beneficial to both our causes let me know. | 
02.04.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plattsburg, Mo. Age: 50
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| | | PWC, just checked the polls and a vote in Missouri for Obama would help him more than a vote for Romney will help him. I'm willing. | 
02.04.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Age: 38
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| | | Again, I asked a simple question and all I got was childish name calling and opinion pieces.
Give me some hard evidence. You guys seemed to be republican leaning individuals,(as I am since the Dems too back congress) and your so hard nose against Hillary who has voted with the GOP on more big spending bills than not.
I'm not trying to support Hillary. I don't like her. But only because
She want's a national health care plan, illegal amnesty, no end to Iraq and big government. Which just happens to be the same thing that Romney and McCain will allow. (minus the National Health Care Plan).
Ron Paul is right. This government has gotten too big, too much welfare, too many wars, too many restrictions on people and business's, and too darn much secrecy. The thought of Hillary, McCain, Willard, or Obama being president, just sickens me to think that not only has our government lost it's way. But there are so many people who support people who have no plans of changing what is so wrong with our government.
I wished Ron Paul was younger, a better speaker, and was quicker with the snappy bumper sticker slogans. Maybe he'd have a better chance. | | Remove This Ad By Registering. Join Our Hillary For President Forum For Free. Sponsored Links: | | 
02.04.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plattsburg, Mo. Age: 50
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| | | I must have missed it. What was the question? | 
02.04.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 41
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Originally Posted by nohil-billy PWC, just checked the polls and a vote in Missouri for Obama would help him more than a vote for Romney will help him. I'm willing. | Romney in Ohio it is, then. I just better make sure my wife votes Obama even if I have to drag her. Maybe conservative Republicans need to let this nomination pass and focus with John Boehner to work at Congress instead.
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02.04.2008
|  | Official Hillary Enemy | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 41
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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv Again, I asked a simple question and all I got was childish name calling and opinion pieces. | I don't think I called any names unless "monster born out of the birth of the Reform Party" is what you mean. And that question of yours is out of place in this topic thread. That's okay. I chase rabbits, too.
I guess I don't have an answer to satisfy you because I have better things to do than look at Obama's plans versus Edwards' plan versus Hillary's plans to triangulate a difference big enough to satisfy your question. I don't need hard evidence that Hillary is worse than Edwards or Obama. I never voted in a Democratic primary in my life! What do I need hard evidence for? It would be nice to have it if I needed it, but I'm fine without it. If you need an answer, then here: All candidates are equal in all ways.
You are right about Ron Paul, though. He reminds me of Jimmy Carter or worse when he talks about the middle east, his comment, "facism will come to America as a cross wrapped in the American flag" has no justification whatsoever, but I love everything else he said. I don't care Paul is old. I think he speaks great. His biggest fault isn't him, but his supporters. C'mon, you have seen one or two who get too excited and strange. These people need to try a little bit harder to prepare what they say and make it easier to digest.
For example, didn't you think it was crazy the first time you heard "Abolish the IRS"? Any normal person would think so. It is too shocking to chew all at once. Ron Paul supporters are like that because they come from a place most average, everyday people never heard before. It goes right over their heads. The other candidates get what Paul says, but they see an easier fight to send us pre-chewed fast food. (Or maybe I'm wrong and they don't get it either. YIKES!)
And for the record, I'm really pissed at Ross Perot for not endorsing Ron Paul.
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02.04.2008
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by hrdman2luv Again, I asked a simple question and all I got was childish name calling and opinion pieces... | Hrdman, Herb's answer was quite good. There was a lot of detail to it.
Ron Paul makes some good points but his foreign policy positions are naive, to put it politely. A lot of what he says about being faithful to the Constitution is great, but he simply isn't the right vessel to get that message across. He doesn't have the demeanor of being a leader, and that's what a good president must be.
(Hillary is not a leader either, and that's but one reason she'd be a disastrous president.) | |
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