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Discuss How To Halt Hillary Clinton In 2008 What is your stratagem to help stop Hillary Clinton in 2008? Are the Republicans, Democrats and Independents going about stopping Hillary the right way in your point of view?

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Old 10.15.2007
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a strategy to defeat hillary

For those of us who are registered as republicans: switch parties (register as democrat) and vote for Obama in the primary vote. This is the only actual way to defeat Hillary from winning.
Then, also ask your republican friends to do the same thing. Only in huge numbers using this strategy will it work.
At the last vote, we can vote for whoever the republican will be, if not for Obama.
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I have thought about doing this (voting in the Democratic primary). In Tennessee we don't register with a political party, so it would be as simple as asking for a Democratic ballot on primary day. Haven't decided yet if I'll actually do this, though. It'll probably depend on circumstances then.
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In Tennessee we don't register with a political party, so it would be as simple as asking for a Democratic ballot on primary day.
Agreed, and I live in TN and I think this is EXACTLY what I will do...I am still mulling it over as a viable strategy...
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"For those of us who are registered as republicans: switch parties (register as democrat) and vote for Obama in the primary vote. This is the only actual way to defeat Hillary from winning."

That's very tempting and that's exactly what I would do if Ron Paul weren't running.
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Sure, it depends on the state you live in and how it does things. In CA you register at the county level and you can declare a party or not. However it's done, I don't see any other way of actually defeating Hillary. Only if republicans vote for her runner-up in droves will she lose. Currently the polls are dangerously in her favor. So, rather than, in my opinion, wasting one's vote in the primary on a republican, use it to vote for her runner-up. One reason or assumption for this is that a democrat will win the presidency in 2008. Why? Historically, the presidency (and congress, but on a irregular rhythm) has gone back and forth between the Republicans. Just look at the last 2 decades for example. But it goes back thoughout all our history. Add to this most people's disgust or dislike of the Iraq war in which a republican put us in, and this is for almost certain that a democrat will win in 2008. This is why I say to use this strategy.
Also, the american people (we) need to start using the political system to our benefit, not allow it to use us to the benefit of those who run. For example, why in some states are we asked to join a particular party - so as to be stuck in that particular party's primary election? Why not do, like it sounds in Tenn., allow the people to select the primary that they want to vote it right there in the voting booth? This to me is just a gimick of the political system and the elite. It is to trick the people that this is how it's supposed to be done, so don't you get out of line of do your own thing.
Another thing we have to do is use the past / history as well as the news of the poll to our advantage, not disadvantage.

Also, we need to understand the kind of game politics is. In my opinion, it is not about: may the best politician win, but may the worst one lose. For example, both times Clinton won the presency there was a third candidate (from the independent party, i think, ross perot one time and someone else the other). In both of these instances the votes that were lost or "used" toward these candidates, I believe, was from the more conservative republican. So, those people who voted for that 3rd candidate in with the dream of getting him elected were in my opinion foolish in that their vote was lost to someone who couldn't win. How did we know? By looking at the polls before the election. But being pursuaded happens because people have this idealistic belief about politics that it's about voting for whomever I think is right, rather than looking at the whole picture and weighting things out, and asking ourselves, if I vote for this candidate, who will win? What do the polls tell me? Who am I voting in by not voting for someone else.
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