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Discuss How To Halt Hillary Clinton In 2008 What is your stratagem to help stop Hillary Clinton in 2008? Are the Republicans, Democrats and Independents going about stopping Hillary the right way in your point of view?

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Old 10.14.2007
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Cracking The Clinton Campaign

Many people do not know that crack cocaine was introduced into American drug culture in the mid 1980's from the glut of cocaine flooded into the Mena, Arkansas airport during the Iran Contra conspiracies. Cocaine is dissolved into bicarbonate and wate then boiled down to form a solid which is broken into rocks. Smoked crack provided an instant cheaper high which increased street sales and began a twenty year plus crack epidemic in our country. Bill Clinton while governor of Arkansas received millions of dollars from the bank used to launder drug money for Contra arms in return for protecting this remote Arkansas airport from scrutiny. Later as president he squashed investigations into the drug running which would have ultimately implicated him.

Today the nation is covered by a vast network of hundreds of thousands of crack houses run by illegal immigrants. They are often able to get government assistance, medical care and full benefits for their children's healthcare which are not available to low wage working families. This nightmare development has always been assisted by Clinton democrats who have swamped illegal immigrants with benefits while we are out billions in both subsidising crack dealers and paying off our law enforcement expenses. In the meantime too much money is being swept out of the country to FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia) and Mexico.

The involvement of the Clinton family in helping to create this unchecked national drug disaster and the absurd indulgence of their political partners in sponsoring illegal aliens doing illegal things (also stealing thousands of cars) is a cancer on our country. Additionally we have drug money flowing into our financial systems, including private party third mortgages, margined stock accounts and offshore bank accounts.

The attempt of incompetent liberal (not the progressive) democrats to shoot the toilet morality of the Clinton family into America's face a second time around is not just a ghastly moral vision but a great danger to citizens who would like to break the siege of organized crime and starve our millions of addicts back to personal freedom. Assigning military and police powers to Hillary Clinton is unthinkable and every conscientious anti-Hillary freedom fighter can research and spread the documented involvement of this family in organized criminal activity.

We have a vice president in office who has made Benedict Arnold look like a purse snatcher and the democratic party is countering with a Bush supporting flip flopper like Hillary who threatens us with a continuation of a twenty eight year old interior dictatorship with a Bush or Clinton in it. Go all out and overthrow the Bush/Clinton dictatorship in favor of becoming the world's first direct democracy where activists provide a progressive third voice for America. Lawfully revolt. The insiders are getting weaker. American Revolution 2 began with the storming successses of our internet cavalry and is ready to into the public eye.
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Great post! I agree, I would rather we ALL go for an Independent for the first time and really give the Democrats and Republicans a good scare. Problem is, we ALL have to do it, or we are going to get Hillary IF we don't stick together to find someone who could run as an Independent and actually get elected. It's a far stretch, but NOTHING is impossible! Giving Hillary (a socialist) the reigns to our military would be bad enough...but wait until we are so taxed to death and we WILL have to have a revolution or sit back and work for Hillary's whims! Hillary Clinton is the most clear and present danger facing America today along with Iran. I remember in the Bible it says the anti-Christ will be able to ALMOST fool even those who are on the lookout! Hillary sure is fooling America right now to be sure...makes one wonder. HOW could this woman be so high in the polls? HOW could ANYONE possibly think about voting for her? It makes no sense at all to a person with any brains. I fear she IS going to make it IF we do NOT fight harder and do more in here and elsewhere. Keep those good posts coming, otbDoug as MAYBE the right people will see it and at least THINK for once in their life! We can surely hope.
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"I would rather we ALL go for an Independent for the first time and really give the Democrats and Republicans a good scare."

If our state is not a battleground state, that is, if the Republican or Democrat is a shoo-in, we can vote for the independent candidate of our choice. Say the election is close between Giuliani and Hillary in Texas, I'll have to vote for Giuliani as the lesser of two evils. If Giuliani is a shoo-in in Texas, I'll vote for the Libertarian candidate. The more people who vote in this way, the more we will show the two major parties our dissatisfaction. Put please, if the election is close in your state, please vote for the Republican over Hillary. We have to keep Hillary out!
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I disagree with the "I would rather we ALL go for an Independent" philosophy. At this point in time the republicans and the democrats are too strong to be defeated. You can believe in an idealistic world but reality stares us in the face. And conveincing "all" to go for the independent just to "scare" the republicans and democrats is a tramendous endeavor. It's easier for us to band together against the worse candidate ever - hillary.

Here's my strategy to defeat Hillary. Start early - that is, in the primary. If she losses there, she cannot win the presidency. So, that means that all of us should vote for the next runner up in the democratic primary, which according to the polls is now Obama. Later, at the final election, we can re-evaluate the situation and vote for our favorite, or once again for the lesser of the two or three evils.

We need to understand the kind of game politics is. In my opinion, it is not about: may the best politician win, but may the worst one lose! And in 2008 that is Hillary.

For example, both times Clinton won the presency there was a third candidate (from the independent party, i think, ross perot one time and someone else the other). In both of these instances the votes that were lost or "used" toward these candidates, I believe, was from the more conservative republican. So, those people who voted for that 3rd candidate with the idealistic dream of getting him elected were in my opinion not wise in that their vote was lost to someone who couldn't win. How did we know? By looking at the polls before the election. But being pursuaded happens because people have this idealistic belief about politics that it's about voting for whomever they think is right, rather than looking at the whole picture and weighting things out, seeing how others are voting, and asking ourselves, if I vote for this candidate, who will win? Will my candidate will or will my vote be used up on a candidate who most likely won't win. What do the polls tell me? Who am I voting in by not voting for someone else?

This is how we have to think, in my opinion. What do you think?

Furthermore, if you use history as a guide, a democrat will most likely win in 2008. That's how the american people are - fickle. Every 4/8 years they vote for a republican, then for a democrat. (Or, rather that's what gets elected; remember for example in 2000, that Bush was elected by the people, but by the electoral vote.) Check out the history for yourself, and verify whether is not true or not. Historically, the presidency (and congress, but on a irregular rhythm) has gone back and forth between the Republicans. Just look at the last 2 decades for example. But it goes back thoughout all our history. Add to this most people's disgust or dislike of the Iraq war in which a republican put us in, and this is for almost certain that a democrat will win in 2008. This is why I say to use this strategy. The stragegy of voting in the democratic primary for hillary's closest opponent.
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It's easier for us to band together against the worse candidate ever - hillary.
True, true. AARGH. We simply must defeat the "beast" at any cost. I am open to any and all suggestions to be sure. You ALL have good posts and I am proud to know you all...thanks for using you brains! We need more and more like you all to get in here and let's get a strategy going that we agree on and STICK with! Don't be dismayed...the power of words and what we are doing here is FAR more powerful than some can understand...so, let's keep up the pressure on her, get a REAL strategy built up and go with it. We need ALL anti-Hillary sites/blogs to come together and STICK together as well...this is THAT serious of danger. HILLARY CLINTON CANNOT WIN!
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