Rev Wright 'Keynote Speaker' at NAACP mtg

[nohil-billy]

"I think that people have taken the wrong message over Obama's comments. My take on them is that Obama like Hillary believes that the solutions to people's problems is the government."

No doubt that Obama believes that government is the answer Herb, but your take on his reason for saying such a thing is all wrong. Obama is an elitist who is convinced he's right about everything. Have you ever heard him apologize for anything? No, he just tries to explain what he meant to say and then accuses us of not getting it. He's done that over and over.

I lived in Chicago for over 35 years and in a town of under 3,000 for the last ten. It's like night and day and I'll admit that after all this time, there are many things I still don't get about small town life. Small towns have a stronger sense of community and self reliance. Most still believe in and have faith in their God and religion. Hunting and owning firearms is as second nature to small town folk as catching the bus or owning a bus pass is to the city dweller.

Obama doesn't understand this and therefore doesn't understand why his ideas don't appeal to small town folk. Not used to being turned down on such a broad scale, he assumes that there is some sort of mass hysteria that affects small town people. His diagnosis? Small town folk are bitter and disenfranchised so we use the gun and God issues as our way of sharing in the political experience. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Obama needs to realize that small towns are much more conservative and not as receptive to the liberal ideas such as abortion, liberal secularism and gun control and should campaign accordingly when there. Instead, he chose to write small town people off as a bunch of head cases.

[Herb Schaffler]

You might have a point, nohi-billy, and I don't mean with a pointed tin cap, LOL.

[Herb Schaffler]

By Errol Louis, NY Daily News
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright couldn't have done more damage to Barack Obama's campaign if he had tried. And you have to wonder if that's just what one friend of Wright wanted.
Shortly before he rose to deliver his rambling, angry, sarcastic remarks at the National Press Club Monday, Wright sat next to, and chatted with, Barbara Reynolds.
A former editorial board member at USA Today, she runs something called Reynolds News Services and teaches ministry at the Howard University School of Divinity. (She is an ordained minister).
It also turns out that Reynolds - introduced Monday as a member of the National Press Club "who organized" the event - is an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter.
On a blog linked to her Web site- [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This No Hillary For President Forum Link. - Reynolds said in a February post: "My vote for Hillary in the Maryland primary was my way of saying thank you" to Clinton and her husband for the successes of Bill Clinton's presidency.
The same post criticized Obama's "Audacity of Hope" theme: "Hope by definition is not based on facts," wrote Reynolds. It is an emotional expectation. Things hoped for may or may not come. But help based on experience trumps hope every time."

In another blog entry, Reynolds gives an ever-sharper critique of Obama: "It is a sad testimony that to protect his credentials as a unifier above the fray, the senator is fueling the media characterization that Rev. Dr. Wright is some retiring old uncle in the church basement."
I don't know if Reynolds' eagerness to help Wright stage a disastrous news conference with the national media was a way of trying to help Clinton - my queries to Reynolds by phone and e-mail weren't returned yesterday - but it's safe to say she didn't see any conflict between promoting Wright and supporting Clinton.
It's hard to exaggerate how bad the actual news conference was. Wright, steeped in an honorable, fiery tradition of Bible-based social criticism, cheapened his arguments and his movement by mugging for the cameras, rolling his eyes, heaping scorn on his critics and acting as if nobody in the room was learned enough to ask him a question.
Wright has, unquestionably, been caricatured and vilified unfairly. The feeding programs, prison outreach and other social services he has built over more than 30 years are commendable, and his reading of the Judeo-Christian tradition as an epic story of people trying to escape slavery is far more right than wrong - and not something to be caricatured or compressed into a 10-second sound bite.
But Wright should have known - and his friend and ally Reynolds, a media professional, surely knew - that bickering with the press can only harm Wright and, by extension, Obama.

[Syz]

I don't recall hearing or reading too many mute points from Paul. He presents an outstanding Constitutional platform to me which is basic government 101: "might makes right get-a-long, mind yer own business", but he noted it would be one hell of a fight with our corrupt government to return us to a sound government. He never came across to me as the usual PC Congressional Sap Head.

My Barnett reference is to state members of Congress lied to all of us when they accused Bush of hiding secrets about Iraq from them. They had the power at that moment to stop the war with no funding period Barnett informed them that the need to pull Iraq out of the 7th century was our most beneficial act to initiate the beginning of a real global economy. We walked on eggs in our battle with our enemy and allowed the pro-enemy Congress to play PC games with our Patriots until the plan became practically useless.

You don't send patriots off to fight and hand them water pistols then say "oops, we're taking our marbles and going home until the liberals get back in office and can exchange secret documents instead of your bodies. I say "Give 'em the Gun, "Give 'em the Gun, "Give 'em the Gun and we'll all be back when it's over over there. Ah, but wouldn't it be grand if we were nice global traders. Yes in deed, but first we have to progress beyond the stick and stone age and I don't see any adults accepting those terms.

[Syz]

I have given all the news media new call letters SPAH aka Socialist Pandering A. Holes.

Now that they have forced Obama to spit on Wright without reason, other than to join forces to kill him off the ticket to make way for Hillary, I am left with a verified understanding that the white man (Andrea Mitchell and O'Reilly being the grand pooh bahs) is far worse in his racism today then during the pretense of freeing the slaves.

The Clintons, their tv media and the small town redneckers are not Historical nor accomplished and are no more than "Massas" of old in disguise.

I apologize to Obama for the racist vapors the white women are displaying with their votes for Hillary and the male counterpart found bitter at all levels of government, as well as our small towns that Obama knows so well.

[Herb Schaffler]

My wife said she saw on tv or the internet, I don't know which, that Bill Clinton was in a KKK stronghold community collecting money for Hillary's campaign. Has anybody else seen anything about that?

[Syz]

The piranha frenzy to remove Obama on the media has kept me away-didn't watch O'Really's clinton nonsense because he's an Elmer Gantry on all subjects and should wear a T-shirt with "Insight Stops Here"

I can't imagine anyone processing life not connecting both Clintons with the KKK--Did find a few interesting racist connections on [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This No Hillary For President Forum Link.

Quotes: Bill Clinton was among three state officials in Arkansas, in 1989, who were sued under the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965. Plaintiffs offered plenty of proof of voting along racial lines, intimidation of black voters and candidates and other official acts that made voting harder for blacks according to Arkansas Gazette.

During Clinton's 12 year tenure as Governor, he never approved a state civil rights law.

Bill Clinton admired Oral Eugene Faubus, whose claim to fame was trying to bar nine black children from attending Little Rock's Central High School in 1957.

The Democrats have a long standing of racism--Roosevelt appointed Hugo Black to the U.S. Supreme Court who was a notorious segregationist. He was a member of the KKK and became famous for defending Klansmen under prosecution for racial murders.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 got more support from Republicans than from Democrats.

Thomas Jefferson and others founded the Democratic Party and following the war, Democrats continued to fight against equal rights for blacks, eventually defeating Reconstruction and implementing Jim Crow. During the 1920's Republicans repeatedly called for anti-lynching legislature that was opposed by Democrats.

And on and on it goes.