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Old 11.26.2007
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"Not all Atheists are Clinton Socialists."

Many of us libertarians are Atheists and very opposed to statists like Hillary.
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Agreed Herb--I wanted to put an addendum to my statements to NoHil regarding our rights to individual Liberty and my previous remarks that National Health Care is un-Constitutional.

Do any of us know if Hillary plans to include abortion in her health care plan? We should demand an answer to that question. They are the biggest proponents for it, so it would seem the Atheist and Those of Faith would both be forced to pay for abortions with no rights of refusal. We have enough taxation without representation. To date, I only see Giuliani understanding the value of personal health saving accounts. Our corrupt leadership keeps us fighting over religion, blacks/whites-young/old/-rich/poor-men/women so we won't see the Communist/Capitalist fight which is what our leadership is all about and we keep falling for it. Last night I heard Hillary remark that "ALL OF US" will be forced to purchase her National Health Care Plan AND if we don't comply, we will be fined. When asked "how much?" she stated she would go to Congress to get the amount. I had previously printed her original Health Care Plan which was so dictorial that she will hold to it just on the grounds that a Communist liar remains a liar.

One more point regarding Individual Rights. The book "Patriarch" by Richard Norton Smith presents a statement by George Washington. Washington held that "Divine Rights" had no sway within our government and only individual rights held that honor. Washington believed in God, but clearly understood the meaning of it within our Constitution. We are a Nation "Under God", not held by the dictates of others interpretation of their Gods. I hope we will begin our revolution by stopping National Health Care to save our Republic from the much admired tyranny our leaders continually support in the mid east as their goal for America.

To Fox News friends: Yesterday, Drudge Report article/ Clintons and Murdoch long time friends. Murdoch's donations to the Clinton's cause-a million at a time.
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Old 12.03.2007
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Syz, first let me say that I believe you are very intolerant of anybody who believes in anything other than atheism. It's no wonder that you thought everyone was going to hate you when you declared your atheism on another thread.

Agnostics are not people who don't believe in God but refuse to commit to atheism "just in case," like many people believe. I believe that there is something out there but I don't know what or who it is. Could it be the God that the Jews, Christians, and Muslims all worship or could there be a high God with dominion over lesser gods ala JRR Tolkien's "The Silmarilion."

When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments he started off by saying, I am the Lord your God, you shall not have any other gods before me. The fact that he stressed that he was your (the Jewish) God and mentioned other gods is enough to put things in a whole new light for me. I've also wondered who Cain married after he killed Abel and moved away since there should have been only three people left at the time. These things put alot of doubt in my mind but who am I to dis the Bible? Hell (OOPS) Heck, it's been a best seller for years.

I read a book once called "Modern Science And The Genesis Record" which explained how incredibly hard it is to accurately translate the bible as there are so many different meanings for even the simplest words. To me, iffy translation leads to even iffier interpretation. So as I can't say that I believe it, who am I to say that it's not real. Even the big bang theory needs a couple of marbles to get the whole thing going. Where might they have come from? I don't know, do you.

According to Webster, an agnostic is a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as a god or God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable. That best describes how I feel. By the way, gutless atheist was not amongst the definitions.

Therefore, I'm perfectly comfortable with anybody, whatever they believe, and you will rarely find me arguing religion pro or con.
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Old 12.04.2007
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I leave you to your own theories because it's your choice.
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