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10.11.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by Dug "God wants innocent life to be respected" What are the Biblical quotes to support this? Where in the bible does it say "God wants innocent life to be respected" or words to that effect? There are plenty of examples of God killing or asking for innocents to be killed. Please supply the quotes to support your arguments.
Sorry but you are not good at analogies you should leave things like that alone.
But you do agree that medical intervention is a matter between the Doctor and the Patient not for church or state to intervene? So if a doctor agrees with a patient that a medically assisted early term abortion is the best option then it should be allowed.
You want to believe that WMDs have not been found in Iraq, but they have. Sorry, Dug.
If the report says there were weapons and there were no weapons then it is not a credible report. Please find some supporting evidence that supports this otherwise this is just another Fox news story. Fox is run by a famous Ex Australian he is famous for twisting news stories to fit his own political agenda. Please supply some supporting evidence.
Is the CIA capable of finding these things?
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10.12.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Aug 2007
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Originally Posted by Corvair Keep on spinnin', Dug ol' buddy. | So you have no answers and no arguments or reasons, nor can you find any supporting evidence or even a biblical quote but you refuse to concede that your arguments are lacking validity.
If you cannot defend your statements against a functionally illiterate person who failed junior high then they cannot be particularly strong or valid arguments.
Assume that you will henceforth support the right of medical abortion for early term pregnancies as a decision between a patient and a doctor and that it is not a matter for church or state to intervene in? | 
10.12.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Junior Member | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 16
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Originally Posted by Dug If you read it even the Bush government says these are unuseable For a weapon to be a weapon it has to be able to be used otherwise it is not really a weapon is it? | Do you deny that Saddam Hussein used gassed against the Kurds? I got news for you: mustard gas, as well as other gasses are WMDs.
And, please, what do WMDs have to do with abortion, and please, to all liberals: STOP with the Fox is conservative garbage. I got news, CNN, NBC, especially the NBCs are so liberal liberals can not deny it. And, so what? SO Rupert Murdoch is conservative! Call in the National Guard! He has his own opinions! He must die! Oh, and that "documentary" OUTFOXED was proven to be so false, it is sad. Like, say, the guy there represented as an FNC producer never worked for FOX. ANd let's not forget that anchor who worked for them on it, o wait, she worked on CLinton's campaign. She is really right wing
__________________ You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill, who had nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat, and won. | 
10.13.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Member | | Join Date: Aug 2007
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Originally Posted by lenahan Do you deny that Saddam Hussein used gassed against the Kurds? I got news for you: mustard gas, as well as other gasses are WMDs.
And, please, what do WMDs have to do with abortion, and please, to all liberals: STOP with the Fox is conservative garbage. I got news, CNN, NBC, especially the NBCs are so liberal liberals can not deny it. And, so what? SO Rupert Murdoch is conservative! Call in the National Guard! He has his own opinions! He must die! Oh, and that "documentary" OUTFOXED was proven to be so false, it is sad. Like, say, the guy there represented as an FNC producer never worked for FOX. ANd let's not forget that anchor who worked for them on it, o wait, she worked on CLinton's campaign. She is really right wing | I have never never said Hussein was a nice person or that he was anything other than a murdering psychopath Yes he gassed Kurds and slaughtered many others BUT the invasion of Iraq was based on the assertion that there were WMDs in Iraq and that they were a direct threat to the western world.
This was not true and was proved not to be true many people said before the war there were no WMDs but Bush and his mob said they had proof hence the invasion. If the US invaded every country that had murdering psychopaths in power they would not have enough troops. Again look at the history of Iraq and who put Hussein in power and who kept him in power his friends the US Government.
What does this have to do with abortion ? There are people who are happy to slaughter up to 600,000 innocent people for a political/economic reason who still pretend to be shocked if a single embryo is harmed. This is just pure hypocrisy at its worst.
Rupert Murdoch is a very biased conservative who insists on his views being reflected in this news companies, Bias is Bias. | 
10.13.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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| | | John Agresto( was senior advisor for higher education and scientific research for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq and policy head of the National Endowment for the Humanities) was sent by the Pentagon to Iraq to re-establish the Iraqi educational system in 2003. He quotes in his book "Mugged by Reality" a thank you from an Iraqi University Professor during a speech as follows: "The Coalition did indeed find and destroy the most murderous weapon of mass destruction, Saddam himself, and for that my country will be grateful forever" | 
10.13.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Junior Member | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Age: 16
Posts: 86
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Originally Posted by Dug I have never never said Hussein was a nice person or that he was anything other than a murdering psychopath Yes he gassed Kurds and slaughtered many others BUT the invasion of Iraq was based on the assertion that there were WMDs in Iraq and that they were a direct threat to the western world.
This was not true and was proved not to be true many people said before the war there were no WMDs but Bush and his mob said they had proof hence the invasion. If the US invaded every country that had murdering psychopaths in power they would not have enough troops. Again look at the history of Iraq and who put Hussein in power and who kept him in power his friends the US Government.
What does this have to do with abortion ? There are people who are happy to slaughter up to 600,000 innocent people for a political/economic reason who still pretend to be shocked if a single embryo is harmed. This is just pure hypocrisy at its worst.
Rupert Murdoch is a very biased conservative who insists on his views being reflected in this news companies, Bias is Bias. |
A) It was not only Bush, and the administration who believed there WMDs in Iraq, but every single respected intelligence agency believed they were there. And, yes, we are responsible for Hussein's power, but that is the past. Why dwell on it? It's also our fault that the ayatollah took power Iran, that no action was taken against Al Qaida during the Clinton Administration, that Iran went unpunished after the Hostage crisis, but it doesn;t matter anymore. It has been done.
B) If anyone tells me they think over half a million have died in Iraq, i will scream. The total civilian death toll is around 80,000, not 600,000. Stay away from the loony left websites, and stop calling our troops murderers.
C) Yes, Rupert Murdoch is a conservative. I got news for you: I am, and so is most of America. You, as the left does, dislike him simply because of that. If he were on the left, you would love fox news. I got news for you: The left confuses the commentary shows with hard news. Yes, hosts like O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes voice there opinions. Oreilly is a commentator and Hannity and Colmes is a debate show. Gasp....Hardball with Chris Matthews is commentary, as well. But he isn't a conservative, so it's ok to listen to him, but O'Reilly, he leans right. Therefore, everyone on the network is. You know, even the one who worked for the Clinton campaign (Bill Clinton, in this case). So, here is an idea. Vilify the real villains: Bin Laden, the Ayatollah, Ahmindejad, and let the commentators commentate, the newsmen report, and allow Rupert Murdoch to have his own opinions.
Oh, and you really sound like you are a member of MoveOn.org. Why don't you watch the news shows on fox, not the commentary and assume it's news. Try Studio B or The FOX report for news, O'Reilly for opinions.
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10.15.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Guru | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 61
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| | | I don't know that Murdoch is really a conservative, afterall, he's supporting Hillary. I think he's just a smart businessman who saw a niche that needed to be filled with all the left wing slant on the news on all the other networks. I think he is pro-war in the Middle East just as Lieberman is because of his being Jewish. | 
10.16.2007
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Originally Posted by Herb Schaffler I don't know that Murdoch is really a conservative, afterall, he's supporting Hillary. I think he's just a smart businessman who saw a niche that needed to be filled with all the left wing slant on the news on all the other networks. I think he is pro-war in the Middle East just as Lieberman is because of his being Jewish. |
Murdoch is a conservative but money is more important to him than politics
( or anything else for that matter )
Sadly War is good for the news business too. | 
10.16.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Guru | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 61
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| | | If Murdoch is conservative, why is he supporting Hillary? | 
10.17.2007
| | Anti-Hillary Forum Senior Member | | Join Date: Feb 2007
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| | | Murdoch is a liberal and the reason for all the pro-liberal and despot interviews. Fox has lost all credibilty for me and now joins the rest of the shill media. I'm down to Lou Dobbs--drat and they'll soon cut him out. | |
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