Hillary Clinton Enjoys 100% Rating On Abortion From Planned Parenthood

[nohil-billy]

Today, Hillary Clinton used the same old tired pro abortion excuses to show that she believes that it is never too late to have an abortion. Hillary railed on the fact that the law makes no exception for the health of the mother, failing to mention, as all pro-choice backers do, that this would include mental health. A loophole big enough to make the law virtually irrelevant.

I guess sometimes it takes a village to save a baby.


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[lenahan]

I believe abortion is a necessary evil in this world that no matter how wrong, needs to be available, especially for rape victims, incest victims, people who have medical conditions that are live threatening to the mother in child birth, etc.... Sometimes, birth control can fail.

[nohil-billy]

There is no argument from many pro-lifers that abortion should be available for victims of rape, incest, and for those instances where it would be life threatening to the mother, but to use the argument that abortion should be legal on demand because a woman has a right to the control of her own body, as advocated by NOW and Planned Parenthood, is ludicrous. Most abortions are necessitated by a woman's failure to control her body in the first place. A little contradictory, wouldn't you say?

As I stated in an earlier post, there are a myriad of choices available to women to prevent pregnancy - from abstinence to the morning after pill - and I would think that somebody who is not ready to be pregnant would take the time to research and use these choices. Abortion is not a choice, it's a refusal to take responsibility for your actions before and after the fact.

Necessary evil? Hardly!

[Dug]

Abortions happen every day both in and out of hospital.

For those who believe in god then God aborts fetuses all the time if fetuses were somehow special to your god he would not let any of them be lost before birth. If you don't believe in god then medical abortion is no different to a miscarriage except it is much safer for the mother it is a part of nature.

I think contraception is preferable to abortion but there are people who are against that too.

So either open schools to sex education and provide free condoms and the pill to anyone who wants it or be prepared for the consequences.

Freedom of choice and freedom for the individual, that is what makes America great

PS FYI the morning after pill is an abortion if conception has taken place, so there is one more pro abortion supporter for Hillary

[turkeybacon]

well it doesn't have to be about God. Christian or not it is murder.

[nohil-billy]

Dug, murder happens every day also! Should we legalize that too?

And let's say that a doctor amputated your leg because you had a sore knee. Would that be the same as if your leg was severed in a car accident? Your comparison of abortion to miscarriage is far reaching and somewhat ludicrous.

I agree that the pill and condoms should be available to sexually active people who can't afford them but I still believe that personal irresponsibility is more to blame for unwanted pregnancies than a lack of funds to purchase contraception. By your way of thinking, lust supersedes common sense and the heat of the moment supersedes responsibility. Having an erection does not require that sex should automatically follow regardless of the consequences.

You're right that there are super self righteous people who don't believe in contraception and it's for that reason that I consider myself pro choice. And you're also right that if conception has taken place the morning after pill would be a form of abortion, but could you prove that an abortion took place? In the case of the morning after pill, I prefer the devil I don't know over the devil I do.

[lenahan]

I believe that abortion, evil as it is, should be legal. The dems and the OP (which they do, but should do more) should, however, just encourage people not to spread their legs ever time they have the urge to do so. I'm sorry. A condom costs $1.50 if you cant wait. I really don't feel sorry for the idiot who had 10 kids in 10 yrs and thinks we should be help paying for them.

[watchman]

Originally Posted by lenahan

I believe that abortion, evil as it is, should be legal. The dems and the OP (which they do, but should do more) should, however, just encourage people not to spread their legs ever time they have the urge to do so. I'm sorry. A condom costs $1.50 if you cant wait. I really don't feel sorry for the idiot who had 10 kids in 10 yrs and thinks we should be help paying for them.

Take another look at who really is paying the cost not just for abortion, but the total concesquences of it. You and me and a lot of broken women. Notice the increase in gvmnt funding on this issue. Do ya think this was just some societal accident. It's not. Jump to one of the web sites and down load a copy of Hillary's senior thesis from Wellsley - It is a study in deconstruction based on the Alinsky model. That guy was a raving socialist bent on destroying American culture and grabbing power through reorganizing from the ensuing conflict. If that sounds like the Demcratic machine, you now have an idea how bad it is. She should be tried fr treason and giving aid to our enimies along with Bill.

[watchman]

Originally Posted by Dug

Abortions happen every day both in and out of hospital.

For those who believe in god then God aborts fetuses all the time if fetuses were somehow special to your god he would not let any of them be lost before birth. If you don't believe in god then medical abortion is no different to a miscarriage except it is much safer for the mother it is a part of nature.

I think contraception is preferable to abortion but there are people who are against that too.

So either open schools to sex education and provide free condoms and the pill to anyone who wants it or be prepared for the consequences.

Freedom of choice and freedom for the individual, that is what makes America great

PS FYI the morning after pill is an abortion if conception has taken place, so there is one more pro abortion supporter for Hillary

Along with all that grand freedom, how about a little responsibility? Hw about we remve the government from deciding fr our childrens sex lives? How about we leave these personal values to parenting and remve the smut from TV?? Passing out condoms, and pills condons the behavior - Srry but you are way wrong on this one. I am 56 and a grandparent speaking from experience.

[watchman]

Originally Posted by nohil-billy

There is no argument from many pro-lifers that abortion should be available for victims of rape, incest, and for those instances where it would be life threatening to the mother, but to use the argument that abortion should be legal on demand because a woman has a right to the control of her own body, as advocated by NOW and Planned Parenthood, is ludicrous. Most abortions are necessitated by a woman's failure to control her body in the first place. A little contradictory, wouldn't you say?

As I stated in an earlier post, there are a myriad of choices available to women to prevent pregnancy - from abstinence to the morning after pill - and I would think that somebody who is not ready to be pregnant would take the time to research and use these choices. Abortion is not a choice, it's a refusal to take responsibility for your actions before and after the fact.

Necessary evil? Hardly!

Very good talking points. Ever listent to Tammy Bruce on this subjest. She was the former Pres. f NOW in L.A. " ....in todays society with all the options available to women. If you have to go to an abrtion clinic, then you have failed." NOW thats a staement in PERSNAL responsiblity.