Vice President Richard Cheney

[PeroW-Cheney]

If anyone finds a serious effort to encourage him to run, please let me know.

If Fred Thompson can get in the list of candidates to consider, then Cheney certainly deserves to be among the list of potential candidates

[nohil-billy]

Cheney is probably the most hands-on, knowledgable, and articulate vice president this country has ever had, but he would be a bigger albatross for the Republican party than Newt was in '96. The lefties and the main stream media would have a feast.

[PeroW-Cheney]

I guess I want to see him have a podium in the Republican Primary debates and I absolutely need to see who he endorses if he drops out.

Also, in terms of Star Wars, I see him as the Sith Master who can crush the Hillary Rebellion. His involvement in this primary is necessary to defeat Hillary in the big one in November '08.

There are 3 languages among voters: Democrat, Republican and Independent. Nader speaks fluent independent. Lieberman speaks pretty good independent. Cheney speaks in the dialect of Perot voter. As a matter of fact, I swear Cheney didn't vote for Dole in 1996. Someday, I'll find the proof. Cheney is Reform Party.

Independents need him to run and we need to hear what he has to say.

[NoHitlery]

Originally Posted by PeroW-Cheney

I guess I want to see him have a podium in the Republican Primary debates and I absolutely need to see who he endorses if he drops out.

Also, in terms of Star Wars, I see him as the Sith Master who can crush the Hillary Rebellion. His involvement in this primary is necessary to defeat Hillary in the big one in November '08.

There are 3 languages among voters: Democrat, Republican and Independent. Nader speaks fluent independent. Lieberman speaks pretty good independent. Cheney speaks in the dialect of Perot voter. As a matter of fact, I swear Cheney didn't vote for Dole in 1996. Someday, I'll find the proof. Cheney is Reform Party.

Independents need him to run and we need to hear what he has to say.

I agree with you and NHB..Cheney is a genius, but for the same reason I won't vote for Newt unless he somehow wins the primary, Cheney is hated equally by the left. To defeat Hillary, the candidate must not be as polarizing as she is. Have some firm, workable ideas in his platform, and cut the politics as usual nonsense. I think that Obamas appeal at the current time. I sure wouldn't want to see him team up with Hillary as VP with the idea that you can become prez in 8 years when you are ready. That being said, 2 years of the broom rider with a Democratic House and Senate, the Republicans will take back the Senate forsure and put the witch and her ideas on ice.

[nohil-billy]

If Cheney were to run as an Independent, his following would be a considerable portion of the far right. He would split the Republican vote (maybe even beat the Republican candidate) and hand the election to the democrats. That's how we got our first Clinton. Cheney's too smart and too loyal to the party to do that.

It's unfortnate that Republicans are held to much higher standards than democrats. Kennedy killed a woman and is enjoying a long career in the senate. Dan Quayle mispelled potato(e) and he was toast. With Halliburton, the hunting accident, and WMD in his past, it would be a media feeding frenzy.

[PeroW-Cheney]

I didn't want him to run as an independent candidate. I think a Perot voter running in the Republican primary would pre-empt any attempt by the Reform Party to split the Republican vote and hand the election to Clinton again. I think this is true, even if he drops out... like Mitchel does in Ohio.

If Cheney voted for Perot in 1996, then he has golden seniority in the Reform Party. He can disable it for this election cycle and attract independents to vote Republican.

[Herb Schaffler]

I pointed out to a Democrat in another blog that Perot helped Clinton win. He came back with a point that the exit polls showed that wasn't true, but we know how accurate the exit polls are. The exit polls showed Kerry winning the last election. To this, the Democrats claim that Kerry really won but that the voting machines were created by a Republican and were therefore riggid to help Bush. To this I say, if the machines are rigged to help the Republicans, why were the Democrats able to retake Congress?

[PeroW-Cheney]

Yes, democrats are trying to pass off a line of bull about Perot. They say Perot voters were non-voters and not fractured Republicans.

I can't argue from personal experience because of my age. I was a non-voter until I voted for Perot.

BUT... if Perot voters were non voters, what about Hillary 2008 is there to turn us back into non-voters? I mean, AS IF Perot voters didn't help Clinton, then how do Perot voters casting Republican votes help Clinton in 2008? Or even crazier to ponder... What is so great about Hillary 2008 that it turns Perot voters into Clinton voters?

Democrats really insult my intelligence every way they spin this. They are scared that Hillary will have to debate Nader like Bill debated Perot. All Democrats are too chickensh*t to admit this and they sound like as*es as they double talk around it. They double talk about Perot because Nader scares them to death.

This is where Cheney can play useful. Who ever wins the Republican primary can already claim that he has already debated and defeated the Reform Party in the primary. There is no need to debate again in the general election. If Cheney voted for Perot, he's more Reform Party than any other possible independent candidate that can be offered.

I say, let's turn this Republican trap set for the Reform Party and let Democrats step in it instead. Let's make Hillary debate Nader!!!!!!!

[PeroW-Cheney]

Originally Posted by Herb Schaffler

I pointed out to a Democrat in another blog that Perot helped Clinton win. He came back with a point that the exit polls showed that wasn't true, but we know how accurate the exit polls are.

I just got hit with the same exit polls at the Kucinich website forum. I had to laugh. He "proved" that Perot didn't get Clinton elected but Nader did get Bush elected.

I burned his *ss. I asked him for the 2004 exit polls for Nader voters in Ohio. Of course, those don't exist because Kerry sued Nader off the ballot. I told him to look at Ohio's electoral votes to see what the exit polls would have said. I am proud of myself for that one. I feel better than if I told him "efff you."

I also continued his exit poll logic to prove that Nader didn't stop Clinton from getting elected in 1992 and 1996. Therefore Hillary should have no problem with Nader in 2008, right?

Nader V.S. Hillary could be alot of fun to watch in 2008. This is going to get good. I think seeing a Hillary campaign staffer calling Nader an egomaniac would be hysterical, laugh out loud funny!