Bill Clinton: Blacks Naturally Drawn to Obama Because He's Black

[smoothbore]

Totally disagree that the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was a terrorist act...or is that what is now being taught in school?

Those events happened at the end of a long and contentious war, started by the Japanese and their desire to expand their sphere of control. If you want to consider terrorism, ask the Chinese about Nanking while under Japanese control.

The decision to drop atomic bombs was balanced against the potential loss of a million lives should there have been an invasion of Japan. Those bombs were dropped to stop the war....or do you contend that it was our fault that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor?

Patrick

[Herb Schaffler]

FDR provoked the Japanese into bombing Pearl Harbor by meddling with Japan's foreign policy. It was FDR's back door to war to help out Great Britain. Otherwise, there would have been no reason for Japan to attack America. Can anybody really believe that Japan thought they can whip or takeover a country as large as the US? No, they thought they could win a few decisive battles and make the American citizens war weary and force their goverment to stop meddling with Japan's affairs.

Concerning the end of the war, Japan was negotiating terms of surrender. Their only stipulation was that nothing be done to their Emperer. The US insisted on unconditional surrender. Shortly therafter, US dropped the bombs. After that Japan offered the very same terms of surrender of which we accepted. The bombing was for naught. Some say that Truman wanted to show the Soviets what we had. Ofcourse, that reason would have never have been accepted by the American people, so the public had to be duped into believing it was for the noble cause of saving millions of lives by not invading. Ofcourse, Truman didn't care much about Asian people anyway, calling them "yellow puke".

[smoothbore]

Shoulda seen it coming.

Thank you.

Patrick

[Syz]

I feel Ron Paul explained the "why" to us and the value of being a nation of power and that power is our strength and the best part is never having to use it. but socialism is now the power we're supposed to accept and it will again reduce our military until we have to walk on eggs during all negotiations. Corruption of the socialists is so entrenched that everyone was willing to cast Paul aside as a dunce. Recall that McCain couldn't even answer an economic question Paul asked him during the debates, so again, we vote libertarian, while the rest cling to the destruction of our leadership.

Yes Herb, glad you and your wife have agreed--glad she's not a Hillary fan.

I recall driving down Woodward Ave. at 8 mile rd. and seeing the Japanese interned there during the war. That was another sad pox on us.

[Herb Schaffler]

"Recall that McCain couldn't even answer an economic question Paul asked him during the debates"

Probably because he didn't know the answer to it. He probably didn't even know what Paul was talking about. McCain admits he doesn't know anything about economics.

[Syz]

He didn't know and the look on Paul's face was great--but nobody else knew what Paul was talking about either. Our watered-down leaders seek their own level--which doesn't get any higher than the Clintons. Paul had the answers--jut be powerful and stay in your own backyard and we'd have it made. Stoopit is as stoopit do!

[Syz]

I'm in a trivia moment today and how lucky I was to have a funny Dad. Considering the mentality of our leadership, his remarks to me when I was 12 years old fits the moment.

I asked him why we always had to have wars. His Response: Well Syz, we can't have West Point and Annapolis and put out all those Generals and Colonels and not give them a war. It just wouldn't be fair.

[Herb Schaffler]

It sounds like Madelyn Albright's comment that since we have a splendid military, it would be a shame not to use them.

Speaking of Ron Paul, we were in Austin on Saturday taking a tour of the University since my boy is wanting to go the school there. I noticed Ron Paul grafiti on campus and a big homemade Ron Paul sign and a big Ron Paul sign on the highway near Austin. I guess Ron Paul is pretty popular with the college students at UT.

[nohil-billy]

The big sign on the highway sounds familiar. I'll bet he's building a pretty good sized base amongst the homeless who live under the overpasses. Grassroutes?

[NoHitlery]

Originally Posted by Herb Schaffler

I actually agree with some of what Wright said. Our bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima was nothing but an act of terrorism. Anytime you kill innocent civilians in order to promote terrorism among the enemy, you are engaging in terrorism. Saying that does not make Wright anti-American. He is just saying he is against certain American policy. Our policy in the Middle East does promote blowback against American citizens. That's not to justify the actions of Osama bin Laden, but if we don't realize what led him to attack America, we fail to correct our foreign policy and invite future terrorist attacks against American citizens.

I'm tired of the foreign policy that we've had for the past 7 years, that's why I plan to vote for Obama over McCain. I told my Iranian wife that I would vote for McCain over Hillary and she blew her top. She told me that if McCain bombs Iran, I'll be partly responsible for the loss of life of her countrymen. I thought about it awhile and came to agree with her. She and I both voted for Obama in the Texas primary and the Texas caucus so she's no Hillary fan either, but she made a deal with me. If Hillary should somehow steal the nomination, she said she won't vote for Hillary if I don't vote for McCain. So under the circumstances of such a horrible matchup, I'll vote Libertarian as I usually do.

Wow Herb you are scaring me. Letting your Iranian wife tell you how to vote? Nuking Japan a wrong move? Perhaps you might tell that to decendents of the 5000 Marines who lost their lives in a 24 hour period trying to route them out of Pellilu on Pink and Orange Beaches. You don't like our foreign policy? Think our planes and military equipment work better in NY than in the sand? Perhaps you have forgotten 9-11 and all the attacks on U.S. assets since the 70's. If anybody were to bomb Iran it would be Bush as a going away present. He won't and McCain won't...The Iranian people will rise up and take their own country back. This is absolutely one of the main reasons to stay the course in Iraq and Afghanistan. They become stable, Iran will fall, we cave, those countries will be overrun by Iran, for sure Iraq, then we will be back and end up nuking them.