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Old 05.23.2008
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Obama or Hillary as an independent thanks to OpChaos

Remember in 2004 when Nader's vote count was determined before the election? I mean, some guy was running. He voted for himself and made his wife vote for him. He got 2 votes, and that was 2 more votes than Nader got.

The courts decided Nader was going to get zero votes in Ohio before the election even started. Democrats hired Ken Starr's law firm and subpeonad Nader to show up in four or five states at the exact same time on the same day... The Reform Party nomination was illegitimate because the nomination was a teleconference... The Reform Party has no principles or platform... I can't read this petition signature, so lets throw out the whole page...

Read what was found on a pink piece of paper with my absentee ballot and then listen to my crazy prediction.

Franklin County
Where Government Works
BOARD OF ELECTIONS
Mathew M. Damschroder, Director
Michael R. Hackett, Deputy Director
ATTENTION FRANKLIN COUNTY VOTER:
On September 28, 2004, the Ohio Secretary of State ruled that the names of RALPH NADER and PETER MIGUEL CAMEJO, candidates for President and Vice President of the United States, respectively, be removed from the official ballot for the November 2, 2004 General Election due to irregularities in the nominating petition process.
This letter shall serve as notice to the voter that the Board of Elections will not count any vote cast for RALPH NADER and PETER MIGUEL CAMEJO, candidates for President and Vice-President.
All properly cast votes for other candidates in the race for President and Vice-President and for all other offices and questions will be counted.
If you have any questions, please contact the Franklin Country Board of Elections Absentee Department at (614) 462-3470.

IF this nomination really gets hosed up, then Democrats may actually be sued by the Republicans to have their candidate removed from the ballot just like what happened to Nader in 2004. Democrats could lose their ballot in court before the election!

If July hits and this starts looking like a possiblity, the loser of the Democrat Primary may have to leave the party and run independent just to make sure McCain doesn't have the ballot all to himself in the affected states! Independent signatures get turned in August. There is some potential here. Part of me thinks this could never happen, but another part of me wonders how can the Republicans resist giving it a shot?

I'm just trying to play the game called "Every voter counts and every vote will be counted." I have learned that it is not what it sounds like it means. It works like this: Sue Nader off the ballot and then say that every voter counts because you got the Nader voters out of the way.

Need another example? If a Republican voted for a Democrat in the recent primary, you charge those people with felonies so they lose the right to vote and then you say every voter counts because you got some Republicans out of the way.

Still don't get it? How about this? You win the Democrat primary by ignoring Florida and Michigan voters and then you say every voter counts because you got those two Hillary states out of the way. Awww, but if you count Florida and Michigan, then you break the rules and the nomination isn't valid. I'm so confused! I need a judge to settle this. If Nader wasn't up to the standard in 2004, then I need to see if Democrats meet the same standard in 2008.

Am I really crazy to see the progression? Republicans should start saying "every voter counts" and sue the Democrat Presidential candidate off my ballot. That is clearly what the phrase was intended to mean.
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